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Will it fit in a Caravan? (Cavi's bobber build)
08/02/12 at 19:41:24
 
OK I've decided to consolidate my build thread because it's scattered all over the forum.

I'm making a rat/bobber out of this. Started by ditching the seats, fenders and those ugly bars. I put my drag bars and hand controls from my other bike and started connecting everything but it's long from being finished.




Oh and yes, yes a Savage will fit in a Caravan. Quite well actually.



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Reply #1 - 08/02/12 at 19:49:16
 
Next up was the chain conversion. A little searching on here and I found the cogs that bolt up. Ran up to my buddy's shop and had him order me up a nice gold x-ring chain and a couple Sunstar sprockets. 17 up front, 43 out back.



Ugh that belt. That friggin' belt.




Now that's what I'm talking about. Completely transformed the back of the bike.

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Reply #2 - 08/02/12 at 20:02:18
 
Since the stock tank is too wide for drag bars on short risers, I jumped on this tank from a 1988 GS450. A little banging and this is where it sits. This tank has quite a big dent in it on the other side but now that I know how well it fits, I may get one that's in better shape. Body-work is one thing I absolutely hate to do. I'll bang, weld and spray-bomb but god help me if I need to fill-n-sand.





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Reply #3 - 08/02/12 at 20:07:07
 
Without the stock air box and battery box I needed to find a place for the electronics. I really thought finding a place for these two pieces was going to be my biggest headache. Instead, it turned out to be one of the easiest things I've done.

Amazingly I only had to open up the holes on the rectifier about 1/8" on each side and finish tapping the fender-mounting holes and voila, looks like it was supposed to be there.





The CDI didn't require any modification to it nor the bike. There are a couple wire-wraps on the frame that I just simply bent into a U-shape and slid the CDI in its rubber mount right onto them. Done and done.



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Reply #4 - 08/02/12 at 20:31:21
 
The final piece of the chain conversion - moving over that lopsided left-rear shock. I'm not one for perfect symmetry - I like a single-side exhaust, one mirror, single-taillight etc - but this was completely unacceptable. All I can say is I'm so glad that I didn't need to modify the swingarm.

When I cut the tabs and foot-peg mounts off, I also cut off the left upper-shock post. I looked at it and thought, darn this looks so much better but darn this is gonna suck...




Turns out it wasn't so bad, just a lot of elbow grease. I started by drilling a 1/4" pilot hole, then a 31/64" then a 1/2" reamer. Spin the drill very slow and spray WD-40, PB Blaster, whatever you have around and it will cut like butter. The faster you spin the drill, the faster it heats up and dulls out.




I cut off the bracing from the post then turned down a portion of it...



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...and there it is. Since I'm not going to modify the swingarm - nor could I - it's still lopsided. I'm simply gonna hide that with the license plate.




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Reply #5 - 08/02/12 at 20:46:37
 
I bet YOUR lawnmower doesn't have brakes this good! Ha!

Trying to roll this thing out my front door without a brake was starting to become a pain so I HAD to get this brake done. I've been sitting on it for a while because I wasn't sure I even wanted to use this brake line and my lever has M10x1.25 threads so the M10x1 banjo bolt from the Savage wouldn't fit. Why on the lawnmower? Bike was still inside and I wanted to bleed this outside - lawnmower has 7/8" bars - I didn't think twice about it.




I also wanted to get the clutch and throttle cables hooked up. Throttle cable wouldn't work the way it was, it needed to be cut. I used a small piece of brass tubing and drilled a cross-hole through it, no need to buy real nipples. A soldering gun made quick work of it. The clutch cable didn't need modification which was nice. Well this takes care of the hand controls. On to the wiring...



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Reply #6 - 08/02/12 at 20:59:19
 
Ordered a saddle, finally, so of course it comes with a tear in it. Welp, gotta send that back. At least I know I can't use my regular springs unless I want the saddle to be 3 inches off the frame.

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Reply #7 - 08/03/12 at 03:45:25
 
Lookin' GOOD! Also lookin' forward to seein' this one done! Cool
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Reply #8 - 08/03/12 at 04:08:32
 
You and me both. I've had the bike for 2 months, I really didn't expect it to take me this long. If I put my mind to it, I could finish it this weekend but the reality is I just can't get the motivation going so I'm shooting for the end of the month. I'm fighting with myself to get the motivation to do the wiring right now. Since I'm super anal, I want to use all the factory wiring colors which means dissect the harness(done), then remove what I need(partially done), then trim everything to length(not even close) and terminate the connections hopefully with the factory plugs(not even started).

Just typing that took more effort than I felt like doing.
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Reply #9 - 08/03/12 at 06:37:33
 
Only two months! Heck... I got started on mine back in November, and I've had other folks working on it for me... (oh wait, that was the problem in the first place!)

Looks like you're making great progress; Glad to see better pictures of that tank; looks like it was made for the bike, and the rest is coming along nicely as well.
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Reply #10 - 08/03/12 at 07:03:23
 
I am pretty amazed at how well the tank fits. I really only did the banging to get it to sit as low as possible, the tunnel was already the shape of the frame. I stopped banging once I had it resting on the engine. I think today I'm gonna weld the front donut posts back on so I can size up the mount for the back.

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Reply #11 - 08/03/12 at 14:06:18
 
Ugh I hate wiring. Look at this mess. This is why I switched from control-wiring to machining. So daunting to look at.




One thing I like to do whenever I have to take connectors apart is snap pictures of them so I know exactly where everything went.

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Reply #12 - 08/03/12 at 16:19:52
 
I've had mine apart for almost 2 years. It might get put back together, eventually. Unless I score another project that I find more interesting (or the 1957 HD Panhead barhopper gets shipped down here).

And all I have left is respray the rear fender sides, shorten the harness, manual decompression lever and re-assemble. Oh, and swap the current tires for some fresher ones. And finish the mounts for a real seat.

Just can't make myself care about my bike anymore.
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Reply #13 - 08/03/12 at 20:12:49
 
Well I got the front half of the wiring done. That only took what, 7 hours? I don't even want to think about it, I wish I didn't just do the math.

I started by simply swapping the OEM wires over to the new controls.



Then I noticed something odd, the headlamp switch had 3 positions but the housing only had a slot for 2. I made an extra little notch in the housing with my Dremel so now it will still go HI-LO but if I push the switch over and down, I now have an OFF position.





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Reply #14 - 08/03/12 at 20:20:47
 
From there, the wiring was way too long with the much shorter risers and bars so I had to cut off a bunch. I started with the headlamp wiring.

I always reuse the factory connectors unless something was brittle or broken. I open up the crimp that's holding the insulation then I just wiggle the wire back and forth until it breaks off. Then I dab some solder right over the old wire crimp, slide my freshly cut and tinned wire in, crimp, then solder. Now I have a better termination than factory while retaining the factory plugs.




I couldn't do this with the plugs for the turn-signals because they had that piece of extra insulation over them. Time to splice some wires. I have a little trick I like to do to make the wiring as small and clean as possible. Instead of holding the wires against each other and twisting them together, I hold them in an X configuration and twist them together.




Originally the front running-light wires were spliced together at the beginning of the loom. Way too long and I would have had to fish them through two looms. Not happening. I cut the ends off and then spliced them in where I shortened the rest of the turn-signal wiring. Same concept as before but I twisted the two plug ends conventionally, then twisted them in an X to the harness.



Solder then heat-shrink. Always remember to slide your heat-shrink on before you solder!




And that's that! Them two stragglers are the horn wires. I haven't decided what I'm doing for a horn, I may get a large air-horn. Yes, you heard me right, an air-horn.

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