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Re: Chick-fil-A
Reply #60 - 08/03/12 at 06:58:29

Serowbot wrote on 08/02/12 at 18:09:53:

Oh, Sh!t!... I'm fired!... Grin

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Na,.. that guy was jerk,.. I think that window girl was afraid.
Probably thought he was another "postal" wacko...
Inconsiderate jerk...

PS.. I didn't know there was Cickaflicka's here... never heard of them 'till the hoopla... Huh

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I like the chicken at my local Albertson's grocer...

I feel sorry for the girl,.. she handled him well though... Wink

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she should get a raise!! that was not a minimum effort minimum wage behavior on her part.

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Re: Chick-fil-A
Reply #61 - 08/03/12 at 08:48:58

word for word? Really? Show me.

Chick Fil A guy: “What I believe is that marriage is between a man and a woman … What I believe, in my faith, is that a man and a woman, when they get married, are performing something before God, and it’s not simply the two persons who are meeting,”

“I don’t think marriage is a civil right,” when asked whether there’s an inherent right to marry.

Do you think this guy is a bigot for saying this?

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Re: Chick-fil-A
Reply #62 - 08/03/12 at 09:56:48

WebsterMark wrote on 08/03/12 at 08:48:58:

“I don’t think marriage is a civil right,” when asked whether there’s an inherent right to marry.

In an odd way, I agree...
I don't think government should issue marriage licenses to gays...
... or anybody...
Marriage is a religious ceremony... like a baptism, or bar mitzvah...
If you want to be married as a Christian, go to church...
If you want your union legally recognized by the government,... get a civil union license...
Get government out of the religion business,.. and allow civil unions for any couple, gay or straight...
Problem solved...

Of course,.. both Christian and Islam will still condemn gays... but, that's their business...
... and the shellfish eaters.... Undecided

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... and those crazy sinners that mix wool with linen... Undecided

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I wonder what level of he11 you're in for wearing a wool blend?... Huh

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splash07 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 911 Charleston, SC Gender:	Re: Chick-fil-A Reply #63 - 08/03/12 at 10:40:08 WebsterMark wrote on 08/03/12 at 08:48:58: Do you think this guy is a bigot for saying this? No not a bigot, I agree with s-bot here. Civil union license not marriage license. separation of church and state is something we have not quite gotten down yet.
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Re: Chick-fil-A
Reply #64 - 08/03/12 at 12:20:47

Serowbot wrote on 08/03/12 at 09:56:48:

WebsterMark wrote on 08/03/12 at 08:48:58:

“I don’t think marriage is a civil right,” when asked whether there’s an inherent right to marry.

In an odd way, I agree...
I don't think government should issue marriage licenses to gays...
... or anybody...
Marriage is a religious ceremony... like a baptism, or bar mitzvah...
If you want to be married as a Christian, go to church...
If you want your union legally recognized by the government,... get a civil union license...
Get government out of the religion business,.. and allow civil unions for any couple, gay or straight...
Problem solved...

Of course,.. both Christian and Islam will still condemn gays... but, that's their business...
... and the shellfish eaters.... Undecided

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... and those crazy sinners that mix wool with linen... Undecided

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I wonder what level of he11 you're in for wearing a wool blend?... Huh

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okay, what legal advantages do married people have?? there's tax breaks and inheritance things right? hospital visitation stuff, default attorney of law stuff right, what's it called if someone is hospitalized their spouse can make decisions for them, and can someone who is married to someone accused of a crime on trial have any protection of communications or can't be called to testify against them or something . . .

I'm not seeing how any of this has any moral implications at all, so what's the big deal here?? "marriage" "civil unions" it's a legal thing, not an affront to any religion.

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Retread Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 370	Re: Chick-fil-A Reply #65 - 08/04/12 at 17:00:36 Still don't see how gay marriage would harm straight marriages? Are the gay folk going to come into the straights homes and force their gayness on them ? Gay marriage is not a threat to these selfish, religious, bigots.. But the selfish, religious, bigots are a threat to gays..
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Re: Chick-fil-A
Reply #66 - 08/04/12 at 17:45:39

He said he didnt support gay marriage, he diodnt say they should all burn in hell,, The reasons for not supporting it are many & difficult to explain in a forum,, Ohh, do come visit, in a day or 2, Im sure youd get it.,
But please explain, if you will,, the benefit to society & mankind in general gay marriages provide. What Wonderfully prolific families they must create! Boys Humpin boys & girls humpin girls make such BEAUtiful babies..

How is it possible to get so twisted as to see these things as GOOD?

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Retread Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 370	Re: Chick-fil-A Reply #67 - 08/04/12 at 18:00:57 Recognize your hetrosexualness, that is the only reason you feel offended by same sex relationships.. Cathy has advocated to "Throw all Homosexuals in the ocean!". He also has given over two million to anti-gay causes. It is fine to voice your opinion, but when you give money to limit the freedoms of another group of Americans???
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Chick-fil-A Reply #68 - 08/04/12 at 18:28:16 Phhhhtl,,,
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Reply #69 - 08/04/12 at 19:27:05

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/04/12 at 17:45:39:

He said he didnt support gay marriage, he diodnt say they should all burn in hell,, The reasons for not supporting it are many & difficult to explain in a forum,, Ohh, do come visit, in a day or 2, Im sure youd get it.,
But please explain, if you will,, the benefit to society & mankind in general gay marriages provide. What Wonderfully prolific families they must create! Boys Humpin boys & girls humpin girls make such BEAUtiful babies..

How is it possible to get so twisted as to see these things as GOOD?

lay off the goofballs JOG, you're better than that

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Reply #70 - 08/04/12 at 23:43:53

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/04/12 at 17:45:39:

He said he didnt support gay marriage, he diodnt say they should all burn in hell,, The reasons for not supporting it are many & difficult to explain in a forum,, Ohh, do come visit, in a day or 2, Im sure youd get it.,
But please explain, if you will,, the benefit to society & mankind in general gay marriages provide. What Wonderfully prolific families they must create! Boys Humpin boys & girls humpin girls make such BEAUtiful babies..

How is it possible to get so twisted as to see these things as GOOD?

You see the planet has 9 billion people. There really is no need for more.

Anyway to short circuit the process ... or, we could all go the Soylent green route and get it all good and taken care of.

Cool.
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Re: Chick-fil-A
Reply #71 - 08/05/12 at 01:14:04

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/04/12 at 17:45:39:

Boys Humpin boys & girls humpin girls...

JOG,... this excerpt from your post is a tell,... (like in poker)...
I don't mean a tell, as in you're gay...
I mean, as in you're repulsed at the very thought of anything like that...

I'm not gay either,... and I don't like to think of it in any graphical way either...
... but,.. I do have two male friends, and two female, that are gay...
... and they have as much right to the pursuit of "life , liberty, and happiness"... as we do... whether it is a benefit to society or not...
Their rights matter to me...
And the benefit to society is exactly the same as it is to you and me...

Lost just listed them...
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there's tax breaks and inheritance things right? hospital visitation stuff, default attorney of law stuff right, what's it called if someone is hospitalized their spouse can make decisions for them, and can someone who is married to someone accused of a crime on trial have any protection of communications or can't be called to testify against them or something . . .

I'm not seeing how any of this has any moral implications at all, so what's the big deal here?? "marriage" "civil unions" it's a legal thing, not an affront to any religion.

Are there any of these rights you are willing to give up?...
Aren't these Constitutional rights for all the people?...

They are doing exactly what you or I would do...
They are giving up their Constitutional rights, to love the person they love...

The question of whether it benefits society or country, is not important...
That, is the ugly side of socialism... (there are good sides, but this ain't one of them)...
We have the right to pursue our path, and have our individual freedoms, up to the point that it infringes on other people's freedoms...
How does this infringe on you?...

PS... I'm not trying to argue here... I'm trying to open a curtain to you're own firmly held beliefs...
Defend individual freedoms, over the good of the country, or society... your rights are your rights, not to be infringed...
... right up to the point, that it infringes on the rights of others...
Now,.. how does any marriage, not involving you,... infringe on your rights?... (gays will still exist, and be gay, either way)...
How does it hurt he country?... (gays will still exist, and be gay, either way)...
How does it hurt society?... (gays will still exist, and be gay, either way)...
How will it even hurt God?... (gays will still exist, and be gay, either way)...
It will effect none,... in any way...

It will only effect gays that want to have their rights...
These are God given rights... they even have the right to sin,.. or to not believe... God said so...
He made us that way... if he exists...
I know you believe he does... and he made us all... even gays...
... and even atheists...
It is his will that we are free to think and sin... and the Constitution supports it...
So disagree with gays,.. but defend their rights...
As you would wish them to do for you...
"Do unto others..."...

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Re: Chick-fil-A
Reply #72 - 08/05/12 at 05:55:01

If I may jump in…………

Drug use by an individual in theory does not affect me however; I support laws against the use of certain mind altering drugs because in reality, it does affect me. The way a parent raises their child is for the most part none of my business, but I support laws that demand certain conditions be met or the state steps in. A parent should be required to educate their child and I support taxes for public schools to accomplish this because in reality, it does affect me.

The ongoing debate over gay marriage simply comes down to the question of do you think gay marriage affects you? Ultimately I say yes, I think it does because the foundation to our society I believe is the family unit consisting of father, mother and children. I don’t think we understand all the implications when this foundation is weakened. I think gay marriage weakens this foundation. I don’t think there is anything equal to our traditional family unit; I think it’s hard to overstate its importance to a civilized society.

I think a legal contract between two people of the same gender so they act legally on each other’s behalf is appropriate in this world full of contracts and legal mazes we have to navigate when two people live together. I have no problem with that. And I acknowledge this legal contract is for all legal purposes, a marriage. I would just never call it a marriage, I would never acknowledge it’s equivalence to a male-female marriage, I would always maintain it is an abnormality and not mainstream. I would not want children to look upon a same sex marriage as the same as their mother and father's. It is not the same. It is not equal in its ability to raise children which is among the single most important functions we have.

The bottom line is I would not be in favor of anything that weakens the family unit anymore than it is already being weakened and attacked. We just have no idea of what implications this has in later generations.

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Reply #74 - 08/05/12 at 06:56:23

WebsterMark wrote on 08/05/12 at 05:55:01:

If I may jump in…………

Drug use by an individual in theory does not affect me however; I support laws against the use of certain mind altering drugs because in reality, it does affect me. The way a parent raises their child is for the most part none of my business, but I support laws that demand certain conditions be met or the state steps in. A parent should be required to educate their child and I support taxes for public schools to accomplish this because in reality, it does affect me.

The ongoing debate over gay marriage simply comes down to the question of do you think gay marriage affects you? Ultimately I say yes, I think it does because the foundation to our society I believe is the family unit consisting of father, mother and children. I don’t think we understand all the implications when this foundation is weakened. I think gay marriage weakens this foundation. I don’t think there is anything equal to our traditional family unit; I think it’s hard to overstate its importance to a civilized society.

I think a legal contract between two people of the same gender so they act legally on each other’s behalf is appropriate in this world full of contracts and legal mazes we have to navigate when two people live together. I have no problem with that. And I acknowledge this legal contract is for all legal purposes, a marriage. I would just never call it a marriage, I would never acknowledge it’s equivalence to a male-female marriage, I would always maintain it is an abnormality and not mainstream. I would not want children to look upon a same sex marriage as the same as their mother and father's. It is not the same. It is not equal in its ability to raise children which is among the single most important functions we have.

The bottom line is I would not be in favor of anything that weakens the family unit anymore than it is already being weakened and attacked. We just have no idea of what implications this has in later generations.

Web, I want to thank you for a polite and well spoken response without any of the usual vitriol we get (and deliver). I'm not sure how a gay marriage affects anyone else yet though. you haven't convinced me of that, if you want to consider it an abnormality, um, okay, but sorry, I'm tired right now and can't form the words to express how shallow I feel that statement or feeling to be. and your comparisons to drug use and child raising laws are wrong, those behaviors are innately destructive, a parent that neglects their child is doing harm to that child, their actions are hurting another human being. anyway, I'm tired, and don't feel like disecting this anymore at this time, maybe more later

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