....gun nuts...not us...the 'real' gun nuts...low esteem nobodies...you know the type, oiling and feeling their guns until their loins tingle. The long stiff hard barrels of cold steel that makes them feel powerful...fantasizing of how it would feel to kill...the thrill...the power...Yes you know the type. The George Zimmerman type.

Here's the way I see the Second Amendment:

The founders had just cast off a tyrannical government and wanted to ensure that future generations would maintain a capability to do so again, should the need arise.  A militia and a standing army are two very different things.  A militia is a local entity, completely separate from any federal government.  The federal government, over time, has been attempting to redefine this to mean organizations such as the National Guard.  However they are in no way independent of the federal government themselves and therefore do not qualify as militia per the intent of the founders.

Serowbot wrote on 07/23/12 at 09:55:50:


Got any stats on how many people are killed annually by an AR-15 with a 100 round mag compared to 9mm pistols?

That’s not the point.  The bigger point is about freedom.

Both the AR15 and Ninja are objects taken to the extreme because someone wants to experience that.

I’m not in a hurry to say no. In fact, we should all be very cautious about saying no …

Basic flaw in your logic- guns are designed to kill, (the AR15 a lot of people very quickly), Ninja's (at least the bikes) are not.
I am really really glad that you can't own an AR15, or anything like it, in Canada.

No, not really. I used to live in Dayton Oh and that’s where they had the skeet world championship (or something like that, there were thousands of people there) and skeet is not about killing people. That’s just one example. Besides, motorcycles are designed for transport, not transport at twice the speed limit.

Look, gun control laws are an absolute JOKE. The cinema was a gun free zone…. That’s all you’ve got to say.

Also, I heard a discussion about Hopey-change talking about how his kids go to movies too, meaning he can empathize with the victims. But…. if his two girls had been there, an agent with a gun would have blown the dude’s head off and his two kids would have been fine. Reminds me of the time that complete lowlife Rosanne Barr had to admit her body guards carry guns despite her anti-gun stance. Message: Hopey’s kids and Roseaane’s kids are worth it, ours aren’t.
Screw that…

The bottom line is no matter what mental health or gun laws we pass there's always gonna be a way around it. There are people for the most part who embrace good and try to do the right thing. Then there are people who choose evil over good, blame it on their parents, society, video games, whatever, its always going to happen and has happened since recorded history. With modern media we're more aware of it. Some men are inherently evil creatures and society for the most part is unable to stop them until the damage is done.

Now, try to say, "polarisation of political punditry" three times fast   Huh? All I know is give me a lap top and a few minutes and I'll make that motorcycle go faster than 186mph. I dont think I'm evil, that must be the shades of grey you're referring to. I own 25 round clips, not because I want to mow down innocent people, cant shoot worth a sh!t since I had a stroke and I'm legally blind in my shooting eye. I hated assault rifles while my wife was in law enforcement yet I owned 25 round clips, I guess I'm a hypocrite.. The neighborhood I live in is going downhill. I'm to old and sick to move. I felt safe when my wifes cruiser was setting in the driveway, but thats no longer the case. Old sick people like me are becoming easy prey. I never locked my doors in the 80's and I was single, no cop car in the driveway. Houses are being broken into all around me now and too many people know about my guitar collection. I know I'm rambling but the bottom line is I have a few weapons and they're for self defense and gaurding my property. If any gun laws were changed I'm all for longer waiting periods and mental background checks. Longer waiting periods wont stop the evil bastards but it might keep a good man from doing something stupid. In NC I can go buy an asault rifle tomorrow but there's all kinds of pistol laws and a waiting period. Doesnt make sense to me. Not a lot of anything makes sense to me anymore, political correctness destroyed common sense.