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07/18/12 at 19:15:11
 
I only put about 800 to 1000 mi on my bike per season. Can I get away with  just draining  the oil or should or do I definately have to change the filter too?
(How many miles can you safely get out of 1 filter?) Thanks!
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Re: changing oil
Reply #1 - 07/18/12 at 19:39:59
 
 
Funny thing that oil filter -- the oil filter mgf wants you to change it twice as often as the oil (that way he makes more money off of you).   Suzuki wants you do do it according to the oil change frequency in their owner's manual (which you need to do to keep your warranty up anyway).

Common knowledge is change the oil filter with each oil change, although many on here go two oil changes per filter because they are thrifty sorts of people.

Some have backflushed the filter with solvent after doing this 2x trick just to see what it picks up in the way of trash, not finding very much stuck in there to "clog it up" any after doing so they put the silly thing back in so it could pick up something useful during its service life.

You need to develop your own rules for this oil filter stuff, as the above spread of activities is a good bit wider than you might be able to tolerate right at first.

But you can get a lot of opinions on the topic -- hey, just ask about the best kind of oil to use when changing that oil filter ....

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Reply #2 - 07/18/12 at 20:41:31
 
...out of curiosity, what is the best kind of oil to use when changing that oil filter?  Cheesy

(full disclosure, I've read through about a dozen of those threads already, I'm pretty sure that I'm going to try some Rotella T when I get my Verslavy)
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Re: changing oil
Reply #3 - 07/18/12 at 22:13:56
 
 
Wet  .... definitely wet oil.    The dry lube stuff just blows away.
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Reply #4 - 07/19/12 at 02:14:33
 
I see no harm in leaving the o9ld filter in there.
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Reply #5 - 07/19/12 at 05:19:55
 
I used to have a 1964 Plymouth. The Owner's Manual suggested oil changes at 4000 miles, with filter changes every other oil change. Remember, this was with leaded gasoline, the lead from which contaminated the oil. Engines were not as well made, oil was nowhere near as good, gas contained lead, and the maker said the car could go 8000 miles on a filter.

I present this merely as information. You may draw your own conclusions.
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Reply #6 - 07/19/12 at 06:08:55
 
I aways change the filter every time I change oil,It doesn't cost that much and your not running clean oil through the dirty filter.Thats like taking a bath in dirty water someone else just got out of.It could also lower the oil pressure some.
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Reply #7 - 07/19/12 at 08:34:05
 
No it's like taking a bath in clean water but with a dirty tub Smiley
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Reply #8 - 07/19/12 at 08:51:01
 
In the case of the Savage/S40, there actually is a little "bathtub" up in the head, which holds oil to lube the cam until the oil pump gets more going. This little bathtub probably holds more oil than the filter. Whether you change the filter or not, there is always some dirty oil to mix with the fresh stuff.
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Reply #9 - 07/19/12 at 08:54:03
 
Yea, I always wonder how much of the dirty oil stays behind by just using the drain plug. Anyone ever power flushed their scoot?
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Reply #10 - 07/19/12 at 09:06:47
 
Even if one managed to get every teensy drop of the old dirty oil out, and replaced it with clean oil, contamination begins with the first combustion cycle. The moment the engine is started the oil is no longer clean, even though the level of "dirt" is small at first.
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Reply #11 - 07/19/12 at 09:15:02
 
I tip the bike way over side to side and you get about a cup of old oil from those bathtubs.But you will need more oil to fill up your bike so OF want do that oil cost money. Grin
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Reply #12 - 07/19/12 at 09:15:12
 
Do magnetic drain plug really work?
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Reply #13 - 07/19/12 at 09:17:13
 
Arnold wrote on 07/19/12 at 08:34:05:
No it's like taking a bath in clean water but with a dirty tub Smiley

Also like taking a bath and putting on dirty under wear. Grin
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Reply #14 - 07/19/12 at 11:05:47
 
Thanks for the info.
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