SuzukiSavage.com - How hot is too hot? (oil war again)

Coaxial Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 184 Toronto, Ontario, Canada Gender:	How hot is too hot? (oil war again) 07/17/12 at 12:54:13 City rush hour + 07 Suzuki S40 + 97F( feels like 113F 42% Humidity). Stop and go for about 20 minutes then full out riding. Is there a hot point where I shouldnt ride.
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Re: How hot is too hot?
Reply #1 - 07/17/12 at 13:02:45

No, to be bullet-proof for heat put some Rotella T-6 in your crankcase and jest go on and ride the biatch.

The oil and your bike will be good for any temp your Savage can get up to without degrading the oil (or giving your bike heat indigestion).

When it is very hot outside, check your oil more frequently as you will consume more oil in the hot summer months.

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SaVaGeEaRL Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 106 Georgetown, KY Gender:	Re: How hot is too hot? Reply #2 - 07/17/12 at 13:06:24 rotella t6...hmmm what weight do you prefer oldfeller. and is it for everything or just bikes. i have always used mobile 1 vtwin 20w 50 The temperature proof Rotella T-6 as sold in the USA (from your local WalMart, actually) only comes in 5w-40 weight full synthetic.
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: How hot is too hot? Reply #3 - 07/17/12 at 13:18:42 Rotella is a diesel oil you are a lot better off using a motorcycle oil.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: How hot is too hot? Reply #4 - 07/17/12 at 13:29:30 T6 only comes 1 way 5w40 it has a high temperture rating and flows better to pull heat outta the head. When the bike gets really hot... it's starts to clatter. Pull over and get a cool drink. Don't mind bill, he drinks kool-aide... the blue stuff.
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SaVaGeEaRL Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 106 Georgetown, KY Gender:	Re: How hot is too hot? Reply #5 - 07/17/12 at 13:41:32 and the rotella dont mess with the clutch? interesting. ive never put rotella in anything but deisels for the past 26 years in the garages ive worked in.
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Reply #6 - 07/17/12 at 13:53:46

I rode to work nearly every day the week before last, and just two days last week. 98 deg and sweltering at times. Going in wasn't bad, a lot cooler in the morning. Traffic coming home though, roasts me. Lots of stop and go, some of the worst traffic in the nation (Washington DC area).
I commute about 25 miles each way.

Yeah, it's hot, but I keep telling myself: In five months, it'll be getting dark early and too cold to ride so enjoy it while you can...

BUT.....I've been commuting on my liquid cooled Honda...I'm not quite ready to sit in traffic on the air cooled Savage yet...I'll wait for a nice friday with light traffic and a few degrees cooler....

I'm sure the bike can handle it, I commuted two seasons on a GZ250 years ago just fine...I'm just not sure If I want to handle it..

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: How hot is too hot? Reply #7 - 07/17/12 at 13:54:44 Within the last week or so theres a motorcycle engine that was using that oil,Its all screwed up now.good oil Its on here somewhere. Bill must now find this reference or face the Kangaroo Kourt fer telling newbies his fictional stuff again .....
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: How hot is too hot? Reply #8 - 07/17/12 at 14:04:28 bill67 wrote on 07/17/12 at 13:54:44: Within the last week or so theres a motorcycle engine that was using that oil,Its all screwed up now.good oil Its on here somewhere. If that were true... you'd have it bookmarked and quote it in every oil thread.
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12Bravo Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 628 Mid-Missouri Gender:	Re: How hot is too hot? Reply #9 - 07/17/12 at 14:06:27 INCOMING I had to get that out of the way. LOL! I haven't had any problems with using Rotella T6 in any of my motorcycles over the years.
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Firetox YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 25 Chantilly VA Gender:	Re: How hot is too hot? Reply #10 - 07/17/12 at 14:11:23 im in the same boat and area as mojo ... i drove my car to work today when i read "record highs"
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SALB Serious Thumper Offline FSO Posts: 668 Whittier, AK Gender:	Re: How hot is too hot? Reply #11 - 07/17/12 at 14:18:42 bill67 wrote on 07/17/12 at 13:18:42: Rotella is a diesel oil you are a lot better off using a motorcycle oil. So, I'm confused, Bill. Rotella says MA right on the side of the jug. MA is the motorcycle designation our bikes require, so how is it that Rotella isn't a motorcycle oil? Hmmm. can u say "dual purpose".
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Drifter Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 430	Re: How hot is too hot? Reply #12 - 07/17/12 at 14:35:29 Mobile 1 20-50 for hot weather, look at your owners manual or the one on here. Go to cafe and read the oil thread.
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Re: How hot is too hot?
Reply #13 - 07/17/12 at 15:08:56

Drifter wrote on 07/17/12 at 14:35:29:

Mobile 1 20-50 for hot weather, look at your owners manual or the one on here.

Go to cafe and read the oil thread.

My 2007 owners manual says 10-40 with a MA is the preferred weight. On the chart that lists weight by temperature, you can go as low as 10-30 and still be safe over 100 degrees. With the weak oiling system in the top end, I'd prefer not to start a cold engine with 20-50. 15-40 seems to be the best all round weight for most circumstances, and if it's below 15 degrees, your not catching me riding anyway! But hey, to each his own.

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Re: How hot is too hot?
Reply #14 - 07/17/12 at 15:56:38

SaVaGeEaRL wrote on 07/17/12 at 13:41:32:

and the rotella dont mess with the clutch? interesting. ive never put rotella in anything but deisels for the past 26 years in the garages ive worked in.

I'd like to say that in the experience I had, Rotella actually HELPED with some of my clutch issues.

Clutch was slipping, most likely due to friction reducers in the crap oil the previous owner put in before selling me the bike.

Flushed it out with Rotella and filled her up, rode ~100 miles and flushed again, no problems since.

Granted this wasn't synthetic Rotella, which is what I read up there.

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