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Reply #15 - 07/17/12 at 20:08:44

There are literally thousands of owners of KLR650's, such as myself, who are using the diesel Rotella 15W-40 and have been for years. All the bike's gurus who use it swear by it. Have never seen or heard of any bike having problems due to using this "diesel" rated oil. Any one who bad mouths the Rotella better have some facts to back it up or be known as one who blows hot air.

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Reply #16 - 07/17/12 at 21:25:44

verslagen1 wrote on 07/17/12 at 14:04:28:

bill67 wrote on 07/17/12 at 13:54:44:

Within the last week or so theres a motorcycle engine that was using that oil,Its all screwed up now.good oil Roll Eyes

Its on here somewhere.

If that were true... you'd have it bookmarked and quote it in every oil thread.

Oh billblowist? have you forgotten?

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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12671 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: How hot is too hot? Reply #17 - 07/17/12 at 22:00:39 I thought we were gonna change it to Billipsheeter if we caught him providing false info to the newbies again.
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Dj12midnit Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline If you'r here and I'm here isn't this our time? Posts: 1036 Lynden Wa. Gender:	Re: How hot is too hot? Reply #18 - 07/17/12 at 22:12:28 Wait the T6 says it is rated for motorcycles, Bill is it a lie?
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: How hot is too hot? Reply #19 - 07/18/12 at 04:17:44 Boys if you ever buy a diesel engined car be sure to use motorcycle oil in it.
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Cavi Mike Serious Thumper Offline Thumper n00b Posts: 1005 Rochester, NY Gender:	Re: How hot is too hot? Reply #20 - 07/18/12 at 04:35:33 I'll tell you what, I scoured the web for hours and couldn't find anything saying the Rotella had its MA certification but someone on here showed it to me. It's actually suitable for wet-clutch bikes.
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: How hot is too hot? Reply #21 - 07/18/12 at 04:45:45 But it wasn't made for wet clutches or air-cooled engines,All motorcycle oil was designed for that from the ground up.
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Cavi Mike Serious Thumper Offline Thumper n00b Posts: 1005 Rochester, NY Gender:	Re: How hot is too hot? Reply #22 - 07/18/12 at 04:59:27 That is a pretty good point. I wonder why people started using Rotella in the first place...
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Reply #23 - 07/18/12 at 11:34:28

bill67 wrote on 07/18/12 at 04:45:45:

But it wasn't made for wet clutches or air-cooled engines,All motorcycle oil was designed for that from the ground up.

As I said, not one case of engine failure ever attributed to Rotella 15W-40 in many years and thousands of users of KLR650s. Most people know that KLRs tear up the oil) and so the recommended (not by Kawasaki of course) change interval used by many, including me, is 1500 miles. Whatever additives or extra protection to extend oil life is available in synthetic and much higher priced oils is not gonna come into play by that mileage anyway. At current price of around $13 a gallon at Walmart this oil is available everywhere, can be changed twice as often (at 1500 miles instead of 2500-3000) for less money and will never be contaminated enough (at that mileage) to not protect your engine. Also, side benefit is never have to think of when to change if you remember multiples of 3. I did a few initial extra oil changes but am now at 1500, 3000, 4500, 6000, etc and change oil filter every other oil change on the 3, 6, 9000 etc numbers. Makes it easy to remember.

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Reply #24 - 07/18/12 at 11:51:51

Cavi Mike wrote on 07/18/12 at 04:35:33:

I'll tell you what, I scoured the web for hours and couldn't find anything saying the Rotella had its MA certification but someone on here showed it to me. It's actually suitable for wet-clutch bikes.

Right there on there website...

And it's on the back of every tripple t and T6 jug.

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: How hot is too hot? Reply #25 - 07/18/12 at 11:53:31 I use Mobil One extended in my car its good for 10000 miles.I've been using Klotz oil for over 40 years no problems with any of my motorcycles or snowmobiles.Klotz is make for motorcycle that take a beating and they keep on ticking.
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: How hot is too hot? Reply #26 - 07/18/12 at 11:57:06 Vers where is that picture of a motorcycle I don't see it.
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: How hot is too hot? Reply #27 - 07/18/12 at 12:01:07 Vers you and Of know which motorcycle engine fell apart use Roddela oil,It's your guys oil so show the people here again.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: How hot is too hot? Reply #28 - 07/18/12 at 12:13:06 bill67 wrote on 07/18/12 at 12:01:07: Vers you and Of know which motorcycle engine fell apart use Roddela oil,It's your guys oil so show the people here again. It's your (false) claim, prove it or shut the hell up.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: How hot is too hot? Reply #29 - 07/18/12 at 12:14:48 bill67 wrote on 07/18/12 at 12:01:07: Vers you and Of know which motorcycle engine fell apart use Roddela oil,It's your guys oil so show the people here again. You know what JASO MA is? Can you read? Visit wally world and pick up a jug.
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