um, what income? how do you know he has any income other than his capital gains? at some time he might have had a job that paid him income that was taxed at whatever tax rate that was, but he probably has no more income coming in that way, or if he does it's minute compared to his capital gains income (that's how CEO's can take a salary of just $1 a year to show boat) but I'd bet it's all capital gains now
Probably true, he likely doesn’t take income. Why? How about because of taxes? He could pay himself a salary. If he took his earned income from investments and accounted for those as company revenue he could pay himself a salary equal to that amount and pay 35% on it, but he doesn’t. Wonder why?..... Here; check this out from a typical European loving liberal. That is until they find out reality…  http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/will-smith-men-in-black-3-french-tax-ra...

so, how do you explain the billions of dollars the corporations are sitting on now, and if I gave myself a tax cut right now, you're darn right I'm going to put it in the bank and save it, NOT invest it, NOT spend it, now I understand that allows the bank to invest with it, but that's going into a investment system that creates little in the way of jobs, well in a very very round about way it might create some jobs, but it's not very efficient at it (probably more efficient at it than the government though)

Ask corporations. They’ll tell you they are scared the unknown. They don’t like or trust Obama. They are afraid if they invest in growth, taxes will go up on regulations will chock them. The company I saw today needs to invest couple hundred thousand dollars on equipment. Will they do it? One factor is tax policy. They'd be happier under Romney than Hopey. You might not like it, but it's a fact. That's how business people are. Now, before you throw a hissy, remember, you can’t call evil, rich business men greedy, selfish and only looking out for themselves on one hand while complaining they don’t loosen up funds because they don’t like Hopey-change on the other hand. By definition, evil, greedy, selfish business men shouldn’t care who’s in office, they only care about their bottom line, right? So doesn’t the fact they are skittish about investments give you the answer to your question?

so, these plants, do they provide a service for just rich people or are their some poor people paying your compensation too?

I can with 99% certainly, guarantee you’ve eaten food out of one of these plants. Everyone contributes to my compensation. What’s your point?

I'm not saying that CEO's aren't worth more or that their job is easy, but they would be NOTHING without everyone working below them, and too many times they neglect those people

I was a personal manger for a year or so. I used to ask a couple question designed simply to get people to talk. Give a person enough rope, and they’ll hang themselves. It’s amazing when you are interviewing someone, if you just don’t talk, people will just start talking and tell you what you really want to know about them. One of my favorite questions was one I heard Microsoft always asked, not sure if it’s true or not. Why are manhole covers round and not square? Great question to ask.
Anyway, the one question I always asked which told me a lot about the person goes something like this: consider your typically manufacturing company. It’s composed of Executive management, sales, accounting, production, quality control, shipping & receiving for example. Now; of those departments, is there one more important than the other?
What’s your answer?

your attitude is why I can't buy any of your BS, your high and mighty attitude is aggravating as hell,

I don’t mean to come off as high and mighty, I’m just right on most topics.

Edit: okay, the jack ass thing is over the line, sorry Web No worries, doesn’t bother me. I get called worst on my good days.

Edit: "Okay, the jack ass thing is over the line, sorry Web."

...snort

That's a pretty mild assertion considering that Webster is the king of hate and nasty name calling here...just say'n.

I guess JOG's head explodes now.  

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/17/12 at 18:48:23:



good one!!  

I knew you could take a lil ribbing, good natured and all, JOG is a really impressive man here, now let's help him spread the word a bit, just try to keep our collective heads on our shoulders  

WebsterMark wrote on 07/17/12 at 18:15:10:



I'd say the sales people are probably the most important, and in a way, CEOs are the chief salesperson for the company.  but again, I'm not arguing that there's not a hierarchy to jobs and work, I'm arguing that the spaces between the roles in the hierarchy should be smaller. and instead, those spaces keep getting wider and wider. if a company is successful it should reward it's employees, but more and more, that doesn't happen, and employees are discarded for a .5 increase on the stock market regardless of how hard they work in any aspect of the hierarchy.  companies should be responsible for and to their employees, instead the shareholder has replaced the employee in that aspect now.  I know it doesn't really matter how hard I work or how successful the company I work for is, the only way I see any serious raises is when I prove that my pay is substantially under the market value for the work I do (aka, go out an get another job and give my current company a chance to match the wage offered by that company) so personal responsibility for my work means almost nothing


oh, and one reason manhole covers are round because then they cant' fall through the same hole they came out of, there's no short side to angle and let it drop through

WebsterMark wrote on 07/17/12 at 18:17:35:
You just proved my whole point, thanks Web. One minute you're telling us the CEO's are worth billions, the next minute you saing you dont trust them. once again thanks Web, maybe you are right most of the time, let people talk enough and you'll find out what you really wanna know  

You just proved my whole point, thanks Web. One minute you're telling us the CEO's are worth billions, the next minute you saing you dont trust them. once again thanks Web, maybe you are right most of the time, let people talk enough and you'll find out what you really wanna know

There's no conflict with what I said. I knew this guy, he could do amazing things, but I didn't trust him with my money. The moral of the store is, as always, buyer beware. Wasn't it Martin Luther who said something like he'd rather have a smart Turk than a stupid Christian as a ruler?