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Cylinder head gone
07/02/12 at 14:33:11

No sure what happened cam must have seized up or oil pump has a problem. Pulled the top cylinder head off and the bearing journals, on the oil pump side, look like the melted. Has anyone ever had the cam journals rebuilt or over sized and brass bearings/ bushing installed to compensate for the over sizing. The price for a new cylinder head is around 700.00 to 900.00, plus the cam for about 150.00. Does the idea of having the cylinder head re sized sound practical or what, would you do. Any other suggestion, to repair the bike would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Cylinder head gone Reply #1 - 07/02/12 at 14:51:57 What kind of oil were you using
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Cylinder head gone Reply #2 - 07/02/12 at 15:12:27 What was & when was the last major service? You sure your oil is not low? Id have to have a look at that oil pump drive gear, Dang sure sorry to hear about this , Jim,,
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Jimmer Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 497 NewportPa. Gender:	Re: Cylinder head gone Reply #3 - 07/02/12 at 15:15:44 Rotella T6 5w40.I've been using that oil for about 4 years never had a problem. I ride between 6000 to 8000 miles a year. Could a been the oil ,but highly unlikely, I change it about every 3000 miles and each spring before I start to ride. It was running good, then the rattle started at about 1000 mile into the season.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Cylinder head gone Reply #4 - 07/02/12 at 16:03:50 Theres been no wrenching done lately? Just riding? OIl level up? If so, Id have to have a look at pump drive, if its okay Id have to pull the gear & spin that pump. Mite need to build a dam & put enough oil in to let it pump.
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cowboy Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 173	Re: Cylinder head gone Reply #5 - 07/02/12 at 18:25:38 sorry to hear of your woes. if you rebuild i change oils rotela is a diesel oil? or is the t6 for gas? i been usein castrol10-40 had good luck so far, good luck.
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Reply #6 - 07/02/12 at 18:37:58

cowboy wrote on 07/02/12 at 18:25:38:

sorry to hear of your woes. if you rebuild i change oils rotela is a diesel oil? or is the t6 for gas? i been usein castrol10-40 had good luck so far, good luck. Lips Sealed

T6 is the full syn version of Rotella T. Yes it's marketed mainly for diesel engines but it's also JASO approved for use in motorcycles, and used by millions of riders and racers the world over.

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Reply #7 - 07/02/12 at 21:05:50

Cars have cataclysmic perverters, so, certain things arent in their oil..
18 wheelers dont have them perverters,, & their oil is meant to handle the pressures at the bearings that a diesel; generates, which is more than a gas engine, but I suspct their bearing surfaces are considerable larger,.seeing as how they tend to last in excess of a MILLION Miles.

So, if an oil is good enough to keep a Big Rig on the road that long, I think itll be okay for my thumper,.

Not carrying doesnt mean you arent an idiot.,

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Cylinder head gone Reply #8 - 07/02/12 at 21:49:29 pictures... where's the pictures?
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Hotrodchriz YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 49 Edinburg,Tx Gender:	Re: Cylinder head gone Reply #9 - 07/02/12 at 22:27:11 verslagen1 wrote on 07/02/12 at 21:49:29: pictures... where's the pictures? what he said! Cant be as bad as mine Lets see some pics
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Reply #10 - 07/03/12 at 05:04:54

rfw2003 wrote on 07/02/12 at 18:37:58:

cowboy wrote on 07/02/12 at 18:25:38:

sorry to hear of your woes. if you rebuild i change oils rotela is a diesel oil? or is the t6 for gas? i been usein castrol10-40 had good luck so far, good luck. Lips Sealed

T6 is the full syn version of Rotella T. Yes it's marketed mainly for diesel engines but it's also JASO approved for use in motorcycles, and used by millions of riders and racers the world over.

R.F.

Motorcycle oil is made for air cooled motors diesel and car oil are not.

Sad when you can't even bait yerself up an oil war any more, ain't it?

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Jimmer Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 497 NewportPa. Gender:	Re: Cylinder head gone Reply #11 - 07/03/12 at 05:22:31 verslagen1 do you want picture of the cylinder head.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Cylinder head gone Reply #12 - 07/03/12 at 05:52:25 I do, I do,.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Cylinder head gone Reply #13 - 07/03/12 at 07:47:26 want to see what damage you got. you know the gorry details chalk outlines and such.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Cylinder head gone Reply #14 - 07/03/12 at 23:53:14 Yep, chalk outlines, oil splatter evidence, oil filter autopsy, a thorough sump exploration, magnet thru the oil,
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