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RidgeRunner13 Serious Thumper Offline haulin' the groceries! Posts: 649 Mustang Island, Texas Gender:	Re: Speed charts for all Savages... Reply #30 - 07/04/12 at 20:13:41 Serowbot wrote on 07/04/12 at 19:53:52: RidgeRunner13 wrote on 07/04/12 at 19:49:26: Maybe the engineer was hung over that day. Well,.. if I ever met him,.. I'd give him a dope slap... ... Could you hit him with a 2x4 instead? I think we need to make a real 'impression' on him!
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Re: Speed charts for all Savages...
Reply #31 - 07/05/12 at 21:38:15

Serowbot wrote on 07/01/12 at 10:41:10:

This will show your Rpm at any speed in each gear...
Normal riding shift points should be around the 3000 to 4000 RPM range...
Fastest acceleration probably more like the 5200 to 5800 Rpm range...

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4. 80's Model Savage with 4spd...
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt82/serowbot/rerun/4spd.jpg
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Thanks for this info, Serowbot. Just looking at the chart, it mirrors my tach readings spot on. Smiley

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AsphaltMan YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11	Re: Speed charts for all Savages... Reply #32 - 05/17/15 at 17:55:44 hmm 4 or 5 speeds, I have 5. I never usually get out of 3rd, 4th is a luxury. Thank you very much for the chart, I find my experiences very close to what you post, possibly a tad faster, but what is speed? Unless you are in a hurry?
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Acidrich YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 21	Re: Speed charts for all Savages... Reply #33 - 07/19/17 at 03:35:05 Hi, The charts seem to have disappeared or can't be viewed? I've built the Vespa/Savage hybrid with 10" wheels and need to check the gearing. At the moment 55mph is 3500rpm..... Cheers Richard
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 17802 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Speed charts for all Savages... Reply #34 - 07/19/17 at 04:43:40 Yes, unfortunately they are all stored on Photobucket and they no longer allow you to use their site for hosting photos.....unless you pay them $ 40 a month!
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Reply #35 - 07/19/17 at 06:11:43

@Dave, you need to organise a sticky telling people to use https://postimages.org it's free to post they are permanent and you don't even need to sign up, plus they have codes for thumbnails, galleries or direct links.

Here's one that I converted to KPH for my own use from the one that was originally posted here. Pretty sure the original mph one must be somewhere on the forum.

http://www.gearingcommander.com is a useful tool as well

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Acidrich YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 21	Re: Speed charts for all Savages... Reply #36 - 07/19/17 at 07:20:14 Cheers Chaps, Forgot to mention I have the 4 speed box. There seems to be a lot of contradictory info about but 6500rpm seems a little optimistic?
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Reply #37 - 07/19/17 at 07:46:02

Acidrich wrote on 07/19/17 at 07:20:14:

There seems to be a lot of contradictory info about but 6500rpm seems a little optimistic?

Most road vehicles are geared so they can get good mpg when they are in high gear - and they cannot reach the redline rpm in high gear (without the help of a steep slope and a strong tail wind).

Why does the chart you posted have 6 gears? Huh

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Reply #38 - 07/19/17 at 13:20:08

Dave wrote on 07/19/17 at 07:46:02:

Acidrich wrote on 07/19/17 at 07:20:14:

There seems to be a lot of contradictory info about but 6500rpm seems a little optimistic?

Most road vehicles are geared so they can get good mpg when they are in high gear - and they cannot reach the redline rpm in high gear (without the help of a steep slope and a strong tail wind).

Why does the chart you posted have 6 gears? Huh

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28366 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Speed charts for all Savages... Reply #39 - 07/19/17 at 14:28:14 I'm really hoping Photobucket sees the error of their ways... and restores everyone’s photo links...
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Re: New improved Speed charts for 5spd Savage...
Reply #40 - 09/20/17 at 04:02:43

360k+ wrote on 07/02/12 at 18:39:19:

1987 model...

Transmission 4-speed constant mesh
Gearshift pattern 1-down,3-up
Primary reduction 1.888 (68/36)
Final reduction 2.956 (68123)
Gear ratios, Low 2.214 (3 1/ 14)
2nd 1.500 (27 / 18)
3rd 1.095 (23/21)
Top 0.875 (21 /24)

Can someone look up and list the gear ratios for the 5 speed?
(I don't have a manual near me today).

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28366 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Speed charts for all Savages... Reply #41 - 09/23/17 at 13:12:44 Gearing charts have been updated as of 09/23/17 - Serow ...
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Reply #42 - 07/05/18 at 13:21:22

360k+ wrote on 07/02/12 at 18:39:19:

1987 model...

Transmission 4-speed constant mesh
Gearshift pattern 1-down,3-up
Primary reduction 1.889 (68/36)
Final reduction 2.956 (68/23)
Gear ratios, Low 2.214 (31/14)
2nd 1.500 (27/18)
3rd 1.095 (23/21)
Top 0.875 (21/24)

Transmission 5-speed constant mesh
Gearshift pattern 1-down, 4-up
Primary reduction 1.810 (67/37)
Final reduction 2.956 (68/23)
Gear ratios, Low 2.333 (35/15)
2nd 1.579 (30/19)
3rd 1.142 (24/21)
4th 0.957 (22/23)
Top 0.885 (23/26)

Overall, stock 4-speed, top: 4.886
Overall, stock 5-speed, top: 4.735
Overall, 4-speed with 5-speed primary, top: 4.682

So this gives us the following rpm @ 60 mph in top:

Stock 4-speed, 140/80-15: 4136
Stock 4-speed, 140/90-15: 3955
Stock 4-speed, 150/90-16: 3701
Stock 4-speed, 140/80-18: 3673
Stock 4-speed, 140/90-18: 3530
4-speed, 1.810 primary, 140/80-15: 3965
4-speed, 1.810 primary, 140/90-15: 3789
4-speed, 1.810 primary, 150/90-16: 3546
4-speed, 1.810 primary, 140/80-18: 3521
4-speed, 1.810 primary, 140/90-18: 3382
Stock 5-speed, 140/80-15: 4008
Stock 5-speed, 140/90-15: 3831
Stock 5-speed, 150/90-16: 3585
Stock 5-speed, 140/80-18: 3560
Stock 5-speed, 140/90-18: 3419

Not sure how tall or wide a rear wheel that will fit, but it is a fairly simple way to obtain substantial less rpm.

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DragBikeMike Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 4162 Honolulu	Re: Speed charts for all Savages... Reply #43 - 07/05/18 at 14:34:41 Thanks Serow & Faffi. Excellent info. Obviously a lot of work went into this. I appreciate your sharing. Best regards, Mike
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