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Reply #15 - 07/01/12 at 06:58:14
 
OUr economy can not grow, regardless of all the $$$ made & spent, IF ALL THAT $$$ originates In America., The only way we grow economically is when $$$ comes in from elsewhere., An INdividual can get rich but the country cant. An individual can make gains by selling to others outside his household, but not inside his own household., Can a dad make his son rich by going to the factory & punching out fenders all day & then payng his kid to haul the trash out? No,
A Nation Must sell to other nations in order to prosper, anyone who doesnt get that is beyond hope,

Until we get back to manufacturing & exporting & NOT having a a trade deficit, theres no earthly way we will survive economically.,

Everything else is just moving the deck chairs around on the Titanic,

OHH, & BTW, there is no solution in the ballot box, our voices are not heard in DC. OUr electeds do NOT vote acording to what their constituents want. If they did, then the polls prior to the voting on this bill would have made them vote against it. So, theres NOT a bigger power in DC making the decisions, BUT, the electeds vote against the will of the people anyway,, Hard to explain all that.
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Reply #16 - 07/02/12 at 22:04:02
 
 This is just a bandaid, sooner or later we will have to pull the darn thing off. And when we do, we will have to face the fact that the ONLY way to finance healthcare that is available to all is to socialize medicine. We are already spending more on healthcare than any other country in the world (matching that for war), we can pander to the insurance lobby only so long.. The freedom of sticking the other guy for your medical care just because you want a boat, motorcycle, or new car is leaving. So is being a ward of the state all your life and getting free healthcare, your payment will come from your welfare check, might want to go to work now? With it comes a new freedom, by not have to worry about how your going to pay for your healthcare, everybody pays, everything is covered, from birth to death.. Our population is growing, to provide for all we will all have to pull together, or die separately..

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Reply #17 - 07/03/12 at 05:13:03
 
The freedom of sticking the other guy for your medical care just because you want a boat, motorcycle, or new car is leaving.

Say what??? What are you talking about?
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Reply #18 - 07/03/12 at 06:28:50
 
Health care law saves consumers over $1 billion.
http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2012pres/06/20120621a.html

Health care law saves consumers over $1 billion

Health care law provides rebates to more than 12 million consumers

Today, Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Kathleen Sebelius announced that 12.8 million Americans will benefit from $1.1 billion in rebates from insurance companies this summer, because of the Affordable Care Act’s 80/20 rule. These rebates will be an average of $151 for each family covered by a policy.

The health care law generally requires insurance companies to spend at least 80 percent of consumers’ premium dollars on medical care and quality improvement. Insurers can spend the remaining 20 percent on administrative costs, such as salaries, sales, and advertising. Beginning this year, insurers must notify customers how much of their premiums have been actually spent on medical care and quality improvement.

Insurance companies that do not meet the 80/20 standard must provide their policyholders a rebate for the difference no later than Aug. 1, 2012. The 80/20 rule is also known as the Medical Loss Ratio (MLR) standard.

"The 80/20 rule helps ensure consumers get fair value for their health care dollar," Secretary Sebelius said.

Consumers owed a rebate will see their value reflected in one of the following ways:
•a rebate check in the mail;
•a lump-sum reimbursement to the same account that they used to pay the premium if by credit card or debit card;
•a reduction in their future premiums; or
•their employer providing one of the above, or applying the rebate in a manner that benefits its employees.

Insurance companies that do not meet the 80/20 standard will send their policyholders a rebate for the difference no later than Aug. 1, 2012.

Consumers in every state will also receive a notice from their insurance company informing them of the 80/20 rule, whether their company met the standard, and, if not, how much of difference between what the insurer did or did not spend on medical care and quality improvement will be returned to them.

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Reply #19 - 07/03/12 at 06:56:53
 
WebsterMark wrote on 07/03/12 at 05:13:03:
The freedom of sticking the other guy for your medical care just because you want a boat, motorcycle, or new car is leaving.

Say what??? What are you talking about?


 Many of the uninsured have the means to buy insurance, they choose not to, they know that if the hospitals have to give them basic treatment..
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Reply #20 - 07/03/12 at 08:06:03
 
okay, i get your point now, wasn't sure.

simple, stop providing care. Problem solved.
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Reply #21 - 07/03/12 at 08:11:34
 
"The 80/20 rule helps ensure consumers get fair value for their health care dollar," Secretary Sebelius said.

Fine, let's enforce the 80/20 rule on Sebelius too.

You think her HHS department operates on a 80/20 rule?! The waste, fraud and unnecessary spending they piss away dwarfs private industry. The idea they can impose their view of fiscal responsibility is the ultimate pot calling the kettle black….

Hell, social security is an illegal ponzi scheme so who are they to tell an industry what their % must be…
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Reply #22 - 07/03/12 at 08:15:58
 
 Let em die on the street?
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Reply #23 - 07/03/12 at 09:23:09
 
Retread wrote on 07/03/12 at 08:15:58:
 Let em die on the street?




Seen much of that?


Health care law saves consumers over $1 billion.

Even if thats true, before the goobs started meddlin in the 70's, things were working fine. Insurance was cheap, cost me about 35/mo to have Blue Cross. I could go to any dr, anywhere & get help,then, they started the HMO crap & its been downhill since, but instead of going back to what worked, they take another step away from sanity. Just EXACTLY like what was done in the schools, & God I wish someone would take the time to just LOOK at Deliberate Dumbing Down, Its FREE, online,
The schools were deliberately sabotaged, & so is our economy & now our health care,

If its such a great idea, why isnt Congress in it? Hello? YOud let the cook bring you Hamburger Helper then go in the kitchen & cook herself up a nice steak? No, youd fire her,, No way does the hired help get better goods & services than the homeowner,






Health care law saves consumers over $1 billion.


Ohh, look, the nice young man is helping the poor little old lady up & Paying for her pants she tore when she fell.


No one points out he is using the $$$ he lifted from her purse he picked it out of when he knocked her down.,




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