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Zeke342 Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 87	Time for a Verslagen? 06/08/12 at 07:09:27 Got the bike pulled apart this morning and snapped some photos... just wondering how much longer I can get by before a verslavvy or verslagen (w/e its called) is required.. And what all I need to do? Is it a whole new part? or does he rebuild mine? and do I NEED a new chain?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Time for a Verslagen? Reply #1 - 06/08/12 at 07:11:41 Its time,,
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360k+ Serious Thumper Offline Savage heart of darkness Posts: 680 Cartersville, GA Gender:	Re: Time for a Verslagen? Reply #2 - 06/08/12 at 07:29:44 Zeke, just out of curiousity... how many miles?
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Zeke342 Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 87	Re: Time for a Verslagen? Reply #3 - 06/08/12 at 07:35:50 Almost 6000, it's a '97.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Time for a Verslagen? Reply #4 - 06/08/12 at 07:38:13 You got till it hits .75" that's ~19mm the recommended limit. But it'll go to about 22mm before it falls out. guestimate is 1000 miles every .04" or 1mm You can put in a new chain and guides or a verslavy and get more life out of that chain on the second hole. only 6k? a lot of short trips or abuse.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Time for a Verslagen? Reply #5 - 06/08/12 at 08:04:02 I still think a mod to eliminate every other tooth on that thing is a good idea.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Time for a Verslagen? Reply #6 - 06/08/12 at 08:22:41 Yes it would, but it would be a very expensive mod. You'd need a horizontal mill, set up with a grinding wheel, you'd have to check the wheels for wear and regrind as necessary. risk would be high.
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Re: Time for a Verslagen?
Reply #7 - 06/08/12 at 08:27:22

Ackachewally, I was thinking more along the lines of a cut off disk in a grinder, smoothing the way between teeth, As long as the pawl has nothing to grab,, its cool.. B ut I dont really remember the distance tween those teeth,, even if a guy smothed out 2 of them ( providing theyre close enough together) should work out, with the spring holding tension. Its on the Unloaded side of the chain anyway

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Time for a Verslagen? Reply #8 - 06/08/12 at 08:33:33 This is wear a higher priced good motorcycle oil makes the difference Stuff just don't wear like that.
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Re: Time for a Verslagen?
Reply #9 - 06/08/12 at 08:40:06

verslagen1 wrote on 06/08/12 at 07:38:13:

You got till it hits .75" that's ~19mm the recommended limit.
But it'll go to about 22mm before it falls out.
guestimate is 1000 miles every .04" or 1mm

You can put in a new chain and guides or a verslavy and get more life out of that chain on the second hole.

only 6k? a lot of short trips or abuse.

So I should be okay for awhile?
Where/how does ordering the verslavy work and is it a permanent fix to this problem? Or am I going to be doing this every 6k~ miles >.<?

All of my trips have been about 17 miles there and 17 miles back a day.. I've only had the bike 500ish miles.. but I will admit to a few heavy accelerations here and there.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Time for a Verslagen? Reply #10 - 06/08/12 at 08:57:33 17 miles, just far enough for it to get warmed up enough to fully stand the jug up & relax enough to get a new tooth on the tensioner after a few trips, If the spring was allowed to hold the tension longer & keep that ratchet out of the mix, the chain would last a lot longer.
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Dave Sisk Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 163 Raleigh, NC Gender:	Re: Time for a Verslagen? Reply #11 - 06/08/12 at 09:00:53 As a new owner...what exactly are we looking at here? Is this the cam chain tensioner thingamabob? Dave
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28644 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Time for a Verslagen? Reply #12 - 06/08/12 at 09:28:25 I could use a Verslagen myself,... just don't know where I'd put him... ...
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Dave Sisk Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 163 Raleigh, NC Gender:	Re: Time for a Verslagen? Reply #13 - 06/08/12 at 11:04:00 Dave Sisk wrote on 06/08/12 at 09:00:53: As a new owner...what exactly are we looking at here? Is this the cam chain tensioner thingamabob? Dave OK, I went and read the tech section on cam chain tensioner and the Verslagen mod....this is prob something I need to check soon on my bike. Dave
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Re: Time for a Verslagen?
Reply #14 - 06/08/12 at 11:20:27

Dave Sisk wrote on 06/08/12 at 09:00:53:

As a new owner...what exactly are we looking at here? Is this the cam chain tensioner thingamabob?

Dave

I think on the parts lists it's called "cam chain adjuster." The tensioner is a plastic-looking slide/guide which the cam chain glides through toward the rear of the case, above the clutch pack.

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