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Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: trouble putting in new brake fluid Reply #15 - 06/04/12 at 15:52:55 verslagen1 wrote on 06/03/12 at 17:34:28: last time I replaced a hose I used a vacuum bleeder. didn't even have time to get a beer. :'( That's a true story!
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splash07 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 911 Charleston, SC Gender:	Re: trouble putting in new brake fluid Reply #16 - 06/04/12 at 16:50:48 still sitiin here bleeding.......I guess I will just bleed my front brakes in my free time over the next few days and hope pressure finally builds up.
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Re: trouble putting in new brake fluid
Reply #17 - 06/04/12 at 17:05:18

Just because this thread reminded me I hadn't done my Savage in about 15 months, I went out & drained mine after my last post. Using the method I described, I replaced the fluid & bled the system. It took me less than 20 minutes from start to finish, & the lever is as firm as ever. Cool

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splash07 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 911 Charleston, SC Gender:	Re: trouble putting in new brake fluid Reply #18 - 06/04/12 at 17:26:39 basically doing exactly what you did except I dont have a hose that long so i just periodically have to refill the MC. Still going slow as sh1t. Which MC do you have ridge? the straight bar or the buckhorn style?
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Re: trouble putting in new brake fluid
Reply #19 - 06/04/12 at 17:44:26

It came with buckhorns, but I have some H-D bars on it now. Not sure what difference that would make? Huh

I know it seems the same, but nothing I tried worked like that does. I usually just use a bottle with some fluid in it to cover the end of the hose down in the bottle, but it doesn't seem to work on bikes like it does cars. I routinely bleed even anti-lock automtive systems using my bleeder bottle by myself. Cool

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splash07 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 911 Charleston, SC Gender:	Re: trouble putting in new brake fluid Reply #20 - 06/04/12 at 17:45:55 there are two different master cylinders for the savage, one for the buckhorns one for the drag style bars.
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RidgeRunner13 Serious Thumper Offline haulin' the groceries! Posts: 649 Mustang Island, Texas Gender:	Re: trouble putting in new brake fluid Reply #21 - 06/04/12 at 17:51:31 A master cylinder is just a manual hydraulic pump, no matter what it is on. This worked on my friends' Hyusong 650 when I serviced it in March, & it has worked on any bike I've ever serviced the brakes on. Inside I would bet they are the same, even if the outside is different.
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splash07 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 911 Charleston, SC Gender:	Re: trouble putting in new brake fluid Reply #22 - 06/04/12 at 17:54:29 thats fine but why is it taking me forever to do this, cant be because I am not using a 4 foot long hose. Anyone have any other ideas?
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Re: trouble putting in new brake fluid
Reply #23 - 06/04/12 at 18:23:05

Pine wrote on 06/04/12 at 07:05:05:

Not trying to be funny... pretty sure one needs to replace "brake" where you see "clutch" in these instructions.

Haha... I'm such a tard. I don't know what I was thinking. I've edited my first post to be "correct" now.

I did mine without a pump in about 15 minutes, and that was never having bled them before, finding a block to even the bike out, and cleaning up the fluid spill. My system sat empty for 12+ months too, cable disconnected, etc.

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splash07 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 911 Charleston, SC Gender:	Re: trouble putting in new brake fluid Reply #24 - 06/04/12 at 20:27:58 something is obviously wrong then
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splash07 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 911 Charleston, SC Gender:	Re: trouble putting in new brake fluid Reply #25 - 06/04/12 at 21:18:15 with the hose removed from the master cyl. and fluid in the reservoir, shouldnt the fluid fow out with the lever let out? Mine does nothing. I can sit there and pump the lever and no fluid emerges from the side of the master cyl. possibly need to rebuild the mc?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: trouble putting in new brake fluid Reply #26 - 06/04/12 at 21:28:04 I know it's a sombich to get started. I wouldn't just pump it w/o at least covering the banjo hole with your finger on the return stroke. otherwise there's nothing to draw in the next volume of fluid. start there, banjo off, finger over the hole, pump.
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splash07 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 911 Charleston, SC Gender:	Re: trouble putting in new brake fluid Reply #27 - 06/04/12 at 21:47:18 did that and got a little fluid to flow through. Finger over hole, pump, air pressure behind finger and then a decent suction when I let the lever out. Put the banjo bolt in and still not getting and presure in the lever.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: trouble putting in new brake fluid Reply #28 - 06/04/12 at 21:52:49 you won't till it's fully bled if you get it started, take the hose off the caliper and bleed that. I'd hold the end up over the master and let it drip back into it. same thing, hold your fingers over the holes so it don't suck back.
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Re: trouble putting in new brake fluid
Reply #29 - 06/06/12 at 06:37:22

OK, well I finally got really fed up with this and went and bought myself one of these (god I love HF, had to call my dad and have him talk me into leaving the store before I blew all my rent money on tools. Grin

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http://www.harborfreight.com/brake-bleeder-and-vacuum-pump-kit-92474.html

still took me about 45 minutes to get it fully bled. But it is working great now. One question: Is the caliper piston supposed to reset itself? I pulled the lever a couple of times to check on the pressure and it grabbed but then would not go back in.

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