The 865 is a bit slower than the 790s but with no starter gear problems. Nice bike but heavy, 110 is all they will do stock. Its British, if you are used to jap bikes its different. Overall nice bikes, gas mileage for carbed ones around 42 mpg. Very understressd engine should last forever, lots of aftermarket support and it says Triumph so you will get constant attention....from old guys wanting to tell stories....