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05/12/12 at 17:56:22
 
Hi Guys,

been awhile, hope everyone on the forum is doing well. i'm curious if anyone has installed an oil cooler on their Savage? not sure i would want to do this, mostly curious, altho it does run hot, what with all the red lights here in SA. thanks in advance!!

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Reply #1 - 05/12/12 at 18:45:49
 
ThumperKat wrote on 05/12/12 at 17:56:22:
Hi Guys,

been awhile, hope everyone on the forum is doing well. i'm curious if anyone has installed an oil cooler on their Savage? not sure i would want to do this, mostly curious, altho it does run hot, what with all the red lights here in SA. thanks in advance!!

kat

Since you are concerned about the motor heating up while stopped in traffic in the summer, maybe it would be good to have a small 12v fan on the cooler.  An oil cooler's effectivenees is doubled or tripled if there is air moving through it.

I remember summers in SA.  I joined the USAF in May of '72, and had to spend many hours out on the newly paved parade ground in July, wearing black boots and a dark green uniform when it was 95 degrees and 90% humidity.
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Reply #2 - 05/12/12 at 20:57:09
 

An easier and less expensive alternative to the high cost and trouble of an oil cooler is
to switch over to an oil that can easily withstand any temperature a Savage can idle up to.

The smart older riders around here know this trick already ....


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Reply #3 - 05/12/12 at 21:56:04
 
Im going away from the high dollar synthetic Mobil One on the Vibe & to Rotella when Im out of the stashed oil Ive bought .. I think one more oil change & Im there.
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Reply #4 - 05/12/12 at 21:59:52
 
How about installing a cooling fan that blows directly on the jug?
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Reply #5 - 05/13/12 at 11:56:51
 

 You could redirect more air over the jug....doesn't help sitting still though
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Reply #6 - 05/13/12 at 12:23:49
 
Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 05/12/12 at 20:57:09:

An easier and less expensive alternative to the high cost and trouble of an oil cooler is
to switch over to an oil that can easily withstand any temperature a Savage can idle up to.

The smart older riders around here know this trick already ....


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Oldfeller, I don't want to start an oil debate. I am just curious why a diesel oil is good for our bikes.
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Reply #7 - 05/13/12 at 16:25:56
 
There are no friction modifiers & it will handle the loads inside a diesel.,.much more hostile of a job ,, Its not meant for catalytic converters, so it can have zddp.
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Reply #8 - 05/14/12 at 08:34:28
 
 
Dave,

Rotella oils have been known for decades among experienced bikers as one of the very best motorcycle oils out there.   Go to any bike list and search for Rotella and you will find their oil discussions.   Ditto for oil discussion lists like BobIsTheOilGuy.



This is T6, same derivation base oil as Shell Helix, the oil that goes into the Ferarri formula 1 race cars.  Our T6 has gone 300,000+ miles in a big truck engine for durability and has gone racing with every brand of motorcycle out there for our style of stress testing.    It is very very high temp stable.

Rotella has a base oil construction and oil additive packages that go FAR beyond car oils (and most of the "motorcycle oils" from the car oil manufacturers).

Rotella did us the kindness of testing their 15w40 dino oil and their 5w-40 synthetic against the JASO motorcycle standard and they passed neatly and cleanly on the first pass.   It was done a courtesy to the biker world as Rotella is intended for use in huge diesel engines and our yearly sales are peanuts compared to over the road diesel sales.

So, I now avoid questions like yours by saying "Huh?"  "It's a bike oil, sez so right on the jug.  Why shouldn't be good for bikes?"

But if you want to review the old list oil wars, we have gone into the base oil structure, the manufacturing processes and the additive package systems.  Rotella oil is really quite good stuff to be selling so inexpensively.

Much of that low price comes from the fact it is normally sold by the full pallet to truckers who use 15-20 gallons at a shot.

But we buy ours by the single gallon at Walmart.       Wink
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Reply #9 - 05/14/12 at 08:44:59
 
Lot of people on here use diesel oil then wonder way the cam chain doesn't last many miles. Shocked Roll Eyes Shocked Roll Eyes Stick to a good synthetic motor oil and ride with out the worries.
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Reply #10 - 05/14/12 at 08:53:52
 
Good point bill...
Make sure the oil is rated for our m/c...
Look for the JASO MA spec just like it says on the back of Rotella T and T6.
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Reply #11 - 05/14/12 at 08:57:07
 
Tell me which motorcycle oil thats not rated for m/c Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #12 - 05/14/12 at 09:01:47
 

Hey, Bill is feeling fiesty .... not making a lot of sense on that last one, but he's fiesty.

Bill, some motorcycle rated oils are made from petroleum derived products, not female estro hormones like the red koolaid stuff you like to use.

I can't say much about that though since my favourite group IV oil is made from catalysing a pure group III "slack wax".
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Reply #13 - 05/14/12 at 09:02:16
 
a lot of harleys are dry clutch... so harley oil.
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Reply #14 - 05/14/12 at 09:04:03
 

Now that's pushing it some, calling a hurley a motorcycle .....    Grin
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