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Oil drain plug problem.
05/08/12 at 06:35:04

Seems like it's one problem after another with this bike.

Finally got it running great with the new jets from lancer, and now, after a nice long ride yesterday.. oil leak.

Couldn't point out where it was coming from until this morning and then I realized it was from the oil drain plug/bolt D:< and the bolt will not tighten.. it will get kind of tight.. no real pressure is required to take it off.. but if I continue to try tightening it it just starts over and seems to get loose again.. and does that endlessly.

Ruined the threads? or is this common with the savage? I was prepared to take the engine apart and use that $5 plug/cap I read about in a couple posts cause thats where I thought the oil was coming from haha

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Oil drain plug problem. Reply #1 - 05/08/12 at 07:13:31 Thats the first stripped oil plug Ive heard of, I just cant tell you how hard that must have been,,Drain the oil, look at the threads on the plug & HOPE theyre messed up.
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Greg Serious Thumper Offline Molon Labe Posts: 1251 Southeast PA, uSA Gender:	Re: Oil drain plug problem. Reply #2 - 05/08/12 at 07:20:39 If it is just bad threads on the plug, get a new one. If the threads are stripped on the engine side, I don't know. For cars they have over-sized self-tapping oil plugs to repair the pan. Perhaps there is something similar to that or a helicoil for the motorcycle that would work.
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Zeke342 Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 87	Re: Oil drain plug problem. Reply #3 - 05/08/12 at 13:00:01 No idea when it could have happened >.< Gave the bike it's first oil change and it was that way. Hopefully it is just the bolt though. Probably wouldn't hurt to order a magnetic one anyways. Thanks
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Re: Oil drain plug problem.
Reply #4 - 05/08/12 at 14:14:56

Okay... is there a certain way to tell if it's the bolt?

I drained the oil and the bolt looks fine (unfortunately)

It does not stand up straight though when put on the screw end.. it leans over a pretty good amount.

Does anyone know of a cheaper magnetic plug for the savage? $15 for one bolt seems slightly much. Also, since it's getting tight up until the VERY end and then getting loose again when im putting the plug back in.. could adding an additional washer fix that??

This is a link i found in another post
http://www.magneticdrainplug.com/Motorcycle_Drain_Plugs/MP06.html#.T6mKkutYuVG

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Okay so we just slapped another washer on the bolt and it tightened right up.
Before I put new oil in.. is there a reason I will regret doing that 5 miles down the road?
Effect on oil pressure? Not going to hold against vibration? Anything?

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Paraquat Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2206	Re: Oil drain plug problem. Reply #5 - 05/08/12 at 15:26:26 $15 seems on par. I paid 12.99 for mine for my car. Odds are the threads in the case are stripped if the bolt looks fine. In a battle of steel vs aluminum the steel usually wins. Adding a washer would push the effective threads out further so they would sit in the damaged area. Post a picture? --Steve
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Zeke342 Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 87	Re: Oil drain plug problem. Reply #6 - 05/08/12 at 15:46:48 Well... everything I can get with a camera APPEARS normal.. except the bolt not standing up straight.. it leans a bit. So.. using washers is.. a bad idea? What are the alternatives? Is their a way to rethread the engine lol???
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Oil drain plug problem. Reply #7 - 05/08/12 at 16:02:17 If you had a long bolt with the same thread,You could hold it straight and try to screw it in.It might clean up the threads.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Oil drain plug problem. Reply #8 - 05/08/12 at 16:12:43 Zeke342 wrote on 05/08/12 at 15:46:48: Well... everything I can get with a camera APPEARS normal.. except the bolt not standing up straight.. it leans a bit. So.. using washers is.. a bad idea? What are the alternatives? Is their a way to rethread the engine lol??? So... how about posting a pic?
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28657 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Oil drain plug problem. Reply #9 - 05/08/12 at 16:29:59 Seems opposite to logic, that adding a washer would make it tighten up... ... ... but,.. hey, whatever works... I'd have never thought to try it... ...
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Re: Oil drain plug problem.
Reply #10 - 05/08/12 at 16:30:19

Okay so I just went back out to check on it (after putting the bolt in with another washer on it, and it WAS perfectly tight) and more oil left over, I guess we didnt drain it all the way because at least another cup or two poured out, along with the bolt loose enough to take out with my fingers...

I don't think we have a bolt sized enough to try cleaning up the threads unfortunately.. heres some pics of the current bolt..

Sorry if they aren't detailed or good.. all I have is an iphone and I can't get a pic of the threads on the inside of the engine.

Shot at 2012-05-08

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Oil drain plug problem. Reply #11 - 05/08/12 at 17:09:10 Lucky for you... that's not the stock bolt. that sucker is twice as long. Buy the mag plug, it's as long as stock.
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Greg Serious Thumper Offline Molon Labe Posts: 1251 Southeast PA, uSA Gender:	Re: Oil drain plug problem. Reply #12 - 05/08/12 at 17:28:48 And it does look like the threads are boogered near the head.
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Zeke342 Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 87	Re: Oil drain plug problem. Reply #13 - 05/08/12 at 17:29:51 You're kidding me -.- Thats both a relief and an irritation lol. Please tell it's not possible the bolt broke off INSIDE the engine.. cause aside from the tiny oil leak it had it ran like a champ lol.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Oil drain plug problem. Reply #14 - 05/08/12 at 17:49:02 Number One,, its just not possible &Number B,, ( thats a pet peeve of mine & I enjoy doing it) I can look at the end of it & see its not a broken off bolt,
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