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joeyzaza Junior Member Offline 1970 ski doo one lung,1996 savage one lung Posts: 65 worcester Ma. Gender:	Noob question about mini apes 03/29/12 at 18:10:46 If I want to run 10" apes will I have to change any of the cables or anything? what is the largest ape bar I can get away with without having to lengthen anything??
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Built2Last Serious Thumper Offline Tempt Fate Posts: 1447 FTF Gender:	Re: Noob question about mini apes Reply #1 - 03/29/12 at 19:18:42 I haven't had any luck with them reaching 10" apes...
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joeyzaza Junior Member Offline 1970 ski doo one lung,1996 savage one lung Posts: 65 worcester Ma. Gender:	Re: Noob question about mini apes Reply #2 - 03/30/12 at 17:13:57 So going with apes is going to be quite a project.
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joeyzaza Junior Member Offline 1970 ski doo one lung,1996 savage one lung Posts: 65 worcester Ma. Gender:	Re: Noob question about mini apes Reply #3 - 03/31/12 at 06:20:14 I want to change the set up I have long arms and dont like the stock bars. If I go the drag bar route what is a good riser height? they sell 2"-6" risers. I have the 6" forward controls. I dont want to be bent in half but I want a more aggressive postition.
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Reply #4 - 03/31/12 at 07:28:00

Ok, so I tried installing some Voodoo Vintage Straight Shot 10" mini apes, came up about 3-4 inches short on stock cables... so you're gonna have to rewire if you go higher than 6" mini apes most likely.. and yes I even tried throwing all the cables behind the fork tree to eat up the slack.. I myself want arms straight out, so I'm going with some 6" minis for now untill I get my nuts together to rewire for my 10"ers... I had the 2005 pull back riser drag bars, I don't know about the cable length of any earlier models that had buckhorn bars and what not...

I'd pull the bars apart and see how far you can stretch everything, putting all the cables behind the fork tree, then make your decision. It didn't take me 4 hours like everyone says, I took them apart for the first time in about 30 minutes, and woulda had the installation complete within an hour if my cable had enough length Angry

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Reply #5 - 03/31/12 at 07:39:29

Pre '05 LS650's have buckhorn bars. The clutch cable and brake line are 4" longer. The throttle cable is different, but the wiring should re-rout OK. I have 8" rise ' Frisco bars on mine with the older short risers, and have had no trouble with the wires and cables reaching. And the bars can be moved forward and back as you need.

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Built2Last Serious Thumper Offline Tempt Fate Posts: 1447 FTF Gender:	Re: Noob question about mini apes Reply #6 - 03/31/12 at 07:58:01 Hey Arteacher, what kind of threadlocker did you use? Seems like my '05 had some white factory thread locker..
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arteacher Serious Thumper Offline Ride as if your naked and invisable! Posts: 2581 London ontario Gender:	Re: Noob question about mini apes Reply #7 - 03/31/12 at 10:38:00 I don't think that white stuff is thread locker. I think it's the poor man's never-sieze, which is milk of magnesia. If it was thread locker they wouldn't have had to use so much. On mine there were holes drilled in the ends of the bolts for safety cotter pins.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Noob question about mini apes Reply #8 - 03/31/12 at 10:46:40 I thot that stuff was put on by line workers to mark the bolt as tight..
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Re: Noob question about mini apes
Reply #9 - 03/31/12 at 11:01:19

arteacher wrote on 03/31/12 at 07:39:29:

Pre '05 LS650's have buckhorn bars. The clutch cable and brake line are 4" longer. The throttle cable is different, but the wiring should re-rout OK. I have 8" rise ' Frisco bars on mine with the older short risers, and have had no trouble with the wires and cables reaching. And the bars can be moved forward and back as you need.

This was not the case when I swapped bars...
Mine is an 05 with the drag bars & pull back risers, I got a used throttle cable from another member that was from an older bike with the buckhorn bars. The connection was different @ the grip, and it had a different angle at that end, but when I layed it side by side with my stock cable they were the EXACT same length Embarrassed

Can't comment on the clutch though, the one I picked up was NOT a stock cable Cheesy

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arteacher Serious Thumper Offline Ride as if your naked and invisable! Posts: 2581 London ontario Gender:	Re: Noob question about mini apes Reply #10 - 03/31/12 at 11:03:53 JoG- the stuff that I'm thinking he's talking about is applied liberally to the entire stud, right up to where it goes in the riser itself. It's used to make sure the spacer does not rust to the stud.
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Re: Noob question about mini apes
Reply #11 - 03/31/12 at 19:16:14

What company makes the 8" mini apes? That sounds like a good start. I hate my stock 1996 bars. As I said I have long arms and they sit me in a laid back kinda goofy position. I love the fprward controls but wanna stretch my arms now. I just ordered some killer front and rear chrome foot pegs and want to change the bar set up to give it a meaner look. I cant decide if I should do 4" chrome risers and drag bars. or if I should do the ape route??? I think I want to do the apes. WHATS THE 8" APE WEBSITE
Ill order them right off and try that out...

The other one is HAS ANYONE TRIED THE HARDTAIL STRUTS?????? DZ-CUSTOMS???? it lowers the bike 3" and makes it a hardtail. I love the look.

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arteacher Serious Thumper Offline Ride as if your naked and invisable! Posts: 2581 London ontario Gender:	Re: Noob question about mini apes Reply #12 - 03/31/12 at 19:30:16 What company makes the 8" mini apes? Builtwell.
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Built2Last Serious Thumper Offline Tempt Fate Posts: 1447 FTF Gender:	Re: Noob question about mini apes Reply #13 - 03/31/12 at 20:23:43 joeyzaza wrote on 03/31/12 at 19:16:14: What company makes the 8" mini apes? Voodoo Vintage makes the best apes... http://www.voodoovintage.com/products.html Builtwell makes some slick ones as well though.. http://www.biltwellinc.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=1
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Re: Noob question about mini apes
Reply #14 - 03/31/12 at 20:38:59

Joey, I'm 6'1" and I have Routy's FC's as well. I went with a pair of Santee Wide XLX style drag bars with 1.5" risers. The fit is perfect for our size; the reach, the look and with the Fc's it feels like a Caddy. I found a pair of mint Suzuki C90 risers for $25, including shipping(I got lucky). The Santee's have a 5" rise and the stock S40 cables just make it.

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