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OIL HELP!
03/27/12 at 12:41:38

Just did my first oil with filter change. But, I cant seem to see any oil in the little window. I put in 2 quarts and a new k&n filter (137 I believe).

How much oil should I put in? I read with a new filter 2.0 L should do it but can't seem to get a reading from the window.

How much is too much/too little.

Thanks for your input.

seems to run fine, but I don't want to do any damage! Undecided

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: OIL HELP! Reply #1 - 03/27/12 at 12:55:55 It take about a cup more than 2 quarts are you holding the bike straight up to check the oil,You have too.
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Boule’tard Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Master of the Obvious Posts: 1620 Austin TX Gender:	Re: OIL HELP! Reply #2 - 03/27/12 at 12:56:38 Your choice. Either fill it until the oil barely reaches the bottom of the sight glass with the bike on the sidestand, or to where it is halfway up the glass with the bike plumb. These amounts of oil are slightly different but both perfectly good. Next time use the search dealy.. this has been covered here very well.
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Reply #3 - 03/27/12 at 12:58:34

I will sum up the current thinking on this subject:
Most believe the "Suzuki method", as explained in the owner's manual for checking the oil sucks. You want to see if there is enough oil in it without standing the bike vertical and twisting around to see where the oil level is.
Most put 2 1/2 quarts or so in during an oil change, which should be enough to see oil at the bottom of the window as you walk up to the bike.
Remember to check it when the bike is level and has sat for 15-30 min, as it takes time for the oil to drain down to the sump.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: OIL HELP! Reply #4 - 03/27/12 at 13:28:16 What do you see in the window? all black (over full of oil)? or all silver (no oil)?
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heroicseven Full Member Offline oops, I broke it. Posts: 245 San Diego Gender:	Re: OIL HELP! Reply #5 - 03/27/12 at 13:28:17 thanks guys i'm gonna add another half quart see what happens.
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youzguyz Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2538 San Antonio, Texas Gender:	Re: OIL HELP! Reply #6 - 03/27/12 at 13:36:43 With new oil in there, sometimes it isn't so easy to see, as new oil as almost clear when only looking at a small cross section. Suggest you make sure you are seeing NOTHING in the window before you add more!!
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heroicseven Full Member Offline oops, I broke it. Posts: 245 San Diego Gender:	Re: OIL HELP! Reply #7 - 03/27/12 at 14:14:48 I was just below the window.. added about a half quart with the bike propped up and at level riding position, and it made all the difference. thanks to everyone who responded!!
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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12672 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: OIL HELP! Reply #8 - 03/27/12 at 20:42:23 Now which oil did you use? Some froth more than others, some expand more than others when they get operating temperature hot.
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mpescatori Serious Thumper Offline Romanum Thumperium Cavalco, yeaaah !!! Posts: 3547 Rome, Italy Gender:	Re: OIL HELP! Reply #9 - 03/27/12 at 23:16:50 Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 03/27/12 at 20:42:23: Now which oil did you use? Some froth more than others, some expand more than others when they get operating temperature hot. Not only that, the quality of the oil will also give a better flavor to your fries... ... er, guys, we ARE talking about frying oil, right ?
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heroicseven Full Member Offline oops, I broke it. Posts: 245 San Diego Gender:	Re: OIL HELP! Reply #10 - 03/28/12 at 03:10:14 I used a 20 50 diesel oil. Castrol GTX. It was cheap and seems to be doing great, engine is running real smooth. I added about 2 oz. of seafoam to a full tank and surprisingly have noticed a huge difference in idling and overall smoothness of operation.
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Reply #11 - 03/28/12 at 08:45:04

http://www.castrol.com/castrol/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9009747&co...

Now take a deep breath and realize that different parts of the world run to different oil standards.

Performance Levels
• Exceeds latest API SG/CD specification
• SAE 20W50

If my guess is right and Heroicseven lives in the Far East or India, then this oil is appropriate for the Savage and likely contains more ZDDP than our diesel oil does. SG and CD are the car/truck specs from like 20 years ago -- which are a good fit for the Savage engine.

I could also be very wrong where he lives -- but if he his buying Castrol GTX in 20w50 that is both car and diesel rated on the same bottle, he likely doesn't live in America.

Here's a listing of the places this oil is sold. http://www.google.com/cse?cx=002683415331144861350%3Atsq8didf9x0&q=Castrol+GT...

This bottle strongly reminds me of what oil used to be before the US Government began fiddling with it. Strong formulations, lots of ZDDP and detergents, and a lot less expensive.

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Reply #12 - 03/28/12 at 08:52:01

I live in so cal, and would change that @#$# in a heartbeat if I knew better. I just saw it on a forum and went with it. At the moment its running smooth as can be. If anyone can come up with a solid reason why I should drain and refrain, please let me know.

1. I live in SAN DIEGO county
2. I live in a Coastal Community
3. Elevation rarely exceeds 500 ft.
4. Air temps hover from 60-75 degrees F
4. This is my first motorcycle ever, so berate me if necessary, for honestly i know not what i do.

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Reply #13 - 03/28/12 at 09:02:16

If you are buying oil here in America, then take a look at what the specs are on the bottle before you buy it.

Uncle Sugar has completely neutered our car oils, but so far hasn't fully neutered the diesel oils (damaged them a little, but they still got some balls).

Castrol diesel in the USA is 15w40 weight and looks a lot like this.

http://www.castrol.com/castrol/productdetail.do?categoryId=82915482&contentId...

It is a good pick for your Savage.

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Reply #14 - 03/28/12 at 10:10:47

Any opinions on Delo 400? There are a few places I've found it on sale cheaper the Rotella, from time to time. I've used it in diesels for years, but have heard that the new stuff has friction modifiers for the new "high tech" diesels. There seems to be a lot of differing opinions on the web as to wether or not its compatible for wet clutch use.

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