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gerald.hughes Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline FSO Posts: 1100 Tucson, Az Gender:	4 vs 5 speed rpms at 60 03/18/12 at 21:31:50 I was wondering if anyone can tell me how many RPMs a 4 speed Savage is doing in top gear at 60 miles an hour, versus how many RPMs a 5 speed Savage is doing in top gear at 60 miles and hour. Thank you.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: 4 vs 5 speed rpms at 60 Reply #1 - 03/18/12 at 21:41:32 the top gear ratio of both are nearly the same with the 4speed being a hair higher. So my guess would be the same w/in 50 rpm.
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Re: 4 vs 5 speed rpms at 60
Reply #2 - 03/19/12 at 07:07:25

Almost makes that 5th gear seem kinda useless, huh?
Sometimes I wish I had a 5th gear, but not if there is little to no difference. It does seem to be running at pretty high rpm when going over 55.
I get Harleys passing me sometimes and they are just bump bump bumping along, sounding like mine in 4th, going 35. But they are going 75-80. Mine will be winding out, sounds like a dirt bike in 2nd going 55.
I call it the Suzuki gear ratio fail.
Not much you can do about it but ride and enjoy the vibration. Cheesy

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are the reasons I've never been on an extended road trip.

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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: 4 vs 5 speed rpms at 60 Reply #3 - 03/19/12 at 18:56:04 Top gear (4-speed): 14/16 (0.875:1) Top gear (5-speed): 23/26 (0.885:1) The 4-speed will run slightly less RPMs in top gear. Both should be about the same though (give or take a few RPMs).
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gerald.hughes Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline FSO Posts: 1100 Tucson, Az Gender:	Re: 4 vs 5 speed rpms at 60 Reply #4 - 03/19/12 at 19:22:39 Given all this, I think that if it wasn't for the starter gear, I would rather have the 4 speed. It would mean a lot less shifting, and given the way that I ride, I really don't see a down side. Seems that they just put a 5th gear in for marketing.
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Re: 4 vs 5 speed rpms at 60
Reply #5 - 03/19/12 at 19:55:33

gerald.hughes wrote on 03/19/12 at 19:22:39:

Given all this, I think that if it wasn't for the starter gear, I would rather have the 4 speed. It would mean a lot less shifting, and given the way that I ride, I really don't see a down side. Seems that they just put a 5th gear in for marketing.

I posted all the gear ratios for both 4 & 5 speeds back some time ago. The 4 speeds have a more practical spread between gears for the engines characteristics. My '87 was faster than my 2000 or my '01.

Yes, the 5th gear was added because eveything else had it. Suzuki dealers were having a hard time selling the 4 speeds. People didn't understand the bike then, & most still don't.

The starter issue can be fixed, so the ideal Savage for me would be the 4 speed with the upgraded starter parts. Cool

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Re: 4 vs 5 speed rpms at 60
Reply #6 - 03/20/12 at 16:56:05

Just FYI - if anyone wants to know.

I'm not sure of the gear teeth count but the ratios are correct. I don't remember where I got these numbers from but let's assume it was from Gerald.Hughes, so...Thanks! Cheesy

4-spd: 31/14?, 27/18?, 23/21?, 14/16?
2.214, 1.500, 1.095, 0.875

Primary and final reduction ratios are the same for 4 and 5 speeds.

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Kris01 Serious Thumper Offline Eat, sleep, RIDE! Posts: 3767 Tennessee Gender:	Re: 4 vs 5 speed rpms at 60 Reply #7 - 03/20/12 at 16:57:42 Whoops! I read the wrong name. Thanks RidgeRunner13!
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