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MMRanch Serious Thumper Offline Evil flourishes if Good Men do Nothing. Posts: 5835 LYNCHBURG TN Gender:	without removing motor from frame 01/18/12 at 09:11:26 No need to take the motor out of the frame for anything but spliting the cases.http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w457/mikespictures1/th_DSCN0135.jpg
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MMRanch Serious Thumper Offline Evil flourishes if Good Men do Nothing. Posts: 5835 LYNCHBURG TN Gender:	Re: without removing motor from frame Reply #1 - 01/18/12 at 21:34:26 now somebody tell me about the Cam I need to put in when reasembley time comes I going with the Wiseco 95mm piston . The piston skirt did that ! Running sideway and up/down at the same time , ???? almost 42,000 mile and working on the third cam chain.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: without removing motor from frame Reply #2 - 01/18/12 at 21:56:23 MMRanch wrote on 01/18/12 at 21:34:26: almost 42,000 mile and working on the third cam chain. With a verslavy you could've saved the cost of the 3rd chain as you would have been just finishing up the 1st chain. and I don't understand what you're asking
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Reply #3 - 01/18/12 at 21:59:33

Fair gas mileage -- Stage 1 Lancer cam

Really crappy gas mileage -- Stage 2 Lancer cam but able to beat Oldfeller on straightaways

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No real risk -- Stage 1 Lancer Cam

Some risk of valve float and piston / valve contact -- Stage 2 Lancer Cam

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No risk of making Oldfeller do something drastic to beat you -- Stage 1 Lancer Cam

Some risk of Nitrous Oxide entering the picture -- Stage 2 Lancer cam

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Reply #4 - 01/19/12 at 08:17:43

So Stage One cam is the most most folks need.

I wouldn't want to have any of these "OldFellers" behind me trying to catch up. Could be dangerous !!!

And then theres the thing about fuel millage , I wouldn't want to go down to 80 miles per tank if I can help it. accually 60mpg is where I'd rather be , the power thing is mute anyway (The Savage hasn't come up short in that area even with stock everything).

So Versey here's a Question;

The 95mm Wiseco piston is what 10.5:1 compression. So with a stock cam what carb jets would get the best fuel millage , and then the stage 1 cam jets ? Huh

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The Nitgrous Oxide would be on your bike , right ? Grin

Right befor it got airborn. Maby airborn is the wrong word it might give Lancer IDEAS.

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Reply #5 - 01/19/12 at 09:05:11

MMRanch wrote on 01/19/12 at 08:17:43:

So Versey here's a Question;

The 95mm Wiseco piston is what 10.5:1 compression. So with a stock cam what carb jets would get the best fuel millage , and then the stage 1 cam jets ? Huh

This is what I had built, no change in jets for the cam/piston change. You will need premium though.

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Reply #6 - 01/19/12 at 12:45:57

I'm glad to hear that !

a few years back I took the jug off to remove the gasket under the cylinder (ultra-gray only), well that let the piston go up toward the head a few more thousands, and so I got used to using high test.

So versey you got the stage 1 cam and the 95mm Wiseco piston ? do you think the cam was worth the money ?

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: without removing motor from frame Reply #7 - 01/19/12 at 13:42:01 Not sure if the piston or the cam boosted me from 85 to 90 on my test track. Both were done at the same time. If you want a real kick in the pants, do the carb. But prepare for a real drop in mpg.
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Reply #8 - 01/19/12 at 13:47:00

I have to admit that I'm so used to my Amal and have been running it for so long that I don't remember the particulars on the Mikuni nearly as well. I lost some mileage with it but gained simplicity and responsiveness. Between that, the K&N air filter and the slightly larger rear tire, I see a nice difference. For me it's not the top end so much as the throttle response. The vacuum lag just bugged me, though it did help fuel efficiency.

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MMRanch Serious Thumper Offline Evil flourishes if Good Men do Nothing. Posts: 5835 LYNCHBURG TN Gender:	Re: without removing motor from frame Reply #9 - 01/19/12 at 18:17:58 Rob you running the stock piston and cam ? you remember fuel milage is directly related to the "Fun Factor" in driving. You think that might account to the fuel useage ? You still pushing 50 mpg ?
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Reply #10 - 01/19/12 at 19:53:09

Still stock cam & piston but would likely upgrade when replacement time comes. I'm not sure just what I'd choose but I tend to go for reliability and ease of maintenance. The fun factor is there, especially with a responsive throttle. Depending on my riding style, I get anywhere from about 45 to 55 MPG., typically closer to the 48-50 range.

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