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Built2Last Serious Thumper Offline Tempt Fate Posts: 1447 FTF Gender:	Jingle in my head 12/31/11 at 09:45:21 I have a little jingle in my cylinder head, almost like if you're walking with keys in your pocket, real random... any ideas what it might be or if it's safe to drive it like that for awhile?
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Jingle in my head Reply #1 - 12/31/11 at 09:47:52 What kind of oil are you using?
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Built2Last Serious Thumper Offline Tempt Fate Posts: 1447 FTF Gender:	Re: Jingle in my head Reply #2 - 12/31/11 at 10:06:35 bill67 wrote on 12/31/11 at 09:47:52: What kind of oil are you using? Not running Klotz... was using Suzuki brand now I'm running some Rot Triple...
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Reply #3 - 12/31/11 at 11:39:31

Your rocker arm pivot pins have little thrust washers on them that are intended to keep the rocker arm from bouncing back & forth in the small amount of clearance that you leave when you adjust them correctly.

This tension washer set up wears out and loses tension, giving you the little jingle sound when the rocker arm starts bouncing back & forth in the clearance, tapping on the top of the valve stem and the face of the cam/follower clearance.

Little tinkle is pretty much meaningless functionally if your valves are correctly adjusted. You just keep the valve clearance adjusted and then live with the jingle bell sound.

Also know that if you have any larger than stock cam bearing clearances due to simple wear, this can cause the sound to come and go as the cam drifts around inside its clearance (which is additive to your tappet clearance, btw).

Run it -- if it is something more serious it will make itself known in good time.

Now this is Bill's clue to try to start something --- his new new year's resolution maybe?

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Jingle in my head Reply #4 - 12/31/11 at 11:41:19 Keep the valves right & wear a quality set of earplugs..
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Built2Last Serious Thumper Offline Tempt Fate Posts: 1447 FTF Gender:	Re: Jingle in my head Reply #5 - 12/31/11 at 11:45:14 Ok so I'm gonna leave it and ride it a week more till I can do a total tear down right after the cold weather... I hope nothings damaged
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Jingle in my head Reply #6 - 12/31/11 at 11:53:59 Built2Last wrote on 12/31/11 at 10:06:35: bill67 wrote on 12/31/11 at 09:47:52: What kind of oil are you using? Not running Klotz... was using Suzuki brand now I'm running some Rot Triple... And you wonder why its noisy.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Jingle in my head Reply #7 - 12/31/11 at 12:04:25 Check around the bike for something loose. typical characters are the speedo, and headlight. Don't know anything that makes a tingle... maybe bill put rocks in you head light? what have you done lately to your bike? check the bolts.
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Built2Last Serious Thumper Offline Tempt Fate Posts: 1447 FTF Gender:	Re: Jingle in my head Reply #8 - 12/31/11 at 12:08:51 verslagen1 wrote on 12/31/11 at 12:04:25: what have you done lately to your bike? check the bolts. Lat thing I did was instal verslavvy (all new gaskets, circlip, correct torques), but it was jingling before that... it's definatley inside the head... something tinking...
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Jingle in my head Reply #9 - 12/31/11 at 12:11:07 the speedo can make various sounds. so I wouldn't rule anything out.
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Re: Jingle in my head
Reply #10 - 12/31/11 at 12:33:17

It is probably a loose washer on some bolt you will never find, except by accident. If it was inside the head the noise would probably be muted to some extent, and not be a tinkle but a light knocking.
I used to be paranoid about every little sound I heard. The first time I rode it for a good while on a really hot day the valves were noisy when I slowed down for a stop sign. Scared the bejeasus out of me. They were nice and quiet again after the bike had cooled down.
If you are really worried about it get a mechanic's stethoscope and track it down.

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Built2Last Serious Thumper Offline Tempt Fate Posts: 1447 FTF Gender:	Re: Jingle in my head Reply #11 - 12/31/11 at 13:59:17 Its something inside of the head.. I tried to make a video but all you can hear is are the chains....
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Re: Jingle in my head
Reply #12 - 12/31/11 at 19:02:24

Must not be very serious then.

Old mechanic's rule of thumb -- if you can't figure out what it is, wait a while. If it is something significant it will get worse until the source becomes clear.

Tearing stuff down before that point isn't very useful, as you can finish the tear down and reassembly STILL not knowing what it was ....

If you just did the verslavy, then you know what it isn't.

I am unaware of anything in the head that is gonna "drop dead" on you suddenly -- low oil pressure is the only thing that ever causes rapid head death and that kills the entire motor pretty quickly.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Jingle in my head Reply #13 - 12/31/11 at 19:53:11 You did pull the little plastic tab out of the bottom didn't you?
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Built2Last Serious Thumper Offline Tempt Fate Posts: 1447 FTF Gender:	Re: Jingle in my head Reply #14 - 12/31/11 at 20:18:09 verslagen1 wrote on 12/31/11 at 19:53:11: You did pull the little plastic tab out of the bottom didn't you? lol yes
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