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Reply #15 - 11/11/11 at 10:55:44

HEY MAN,
I like the 1" choke lever you posted up there; it would certainly be easy to mount and wouldn't look out of place or awkward on your bars.
I only wonder this: those de-comp levers are set up like a clutch or brake line: the automatically release as soon as you let off pressure. The choke lever is NOT; when you pull it open, it holds its place. You'd have to manually push it closed at that split second unless you can adjust the tension on it so that it's super loose and pulls itself closed?
Definitely worth looking into.

I wouldn't want to take any meat out of my handlebars at all without reinforcing them from the inside. NOT a place I'd want to have a weak spot. Even if you are working with a perch made for 7/8" bars, I think it would be easier and safer to take the meat out of the perch clamp, or modify it somehow, after all it isn't something that requires a lot of strength. Your bars are....

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28644 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: hot start/decompression lever Reply #16 - 11/11/11 at 11:01:46 Wheels are turning.... Hmmm?... A simple, classic, bicycle shift lever, mounted to the left side mirror mount... Thumb activated... Can't be right side,... 'cause you need the thumb for the starter button ...(just thought of that)... ...
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Re: hot start/decompression lever
Reply #17 - 11/11/11 at 11:45:35

teabowl13 wrote on 11/11/11 at 10:55:44:

HEY MAN,
I like the 1" choke lever you posted up there; it would certainly be easy to mount and wouldn't look out of place or awkward on your bars.
I only wonder this: those de-comp levers are set up like a clutch or brake line: the automatically release as soon as you let off pressure. The choke lever is NOT; when you pull it open, it holds its place. You'd have to manually push it closed at that split second unless you can adjust the tension on it so that it's super loose and pulls itself closed?
Definitely worth looking into.

The type of choke lever serowbot showed can be loosened. In fact, if there's any friction material inside, it can probably be removed.

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Reply #18 - 11/11/11 at 11:56:49

Serowbot wrote on 11/11/11 at 10:41:58:

My bar-end mirrors, leave me with the mirror mounts open,... I wonder if I could rig a thumb lever there?...
Which would be better right hand or left?...

On the right you'd be trying to work the lever while also pushing the start button. THAT takes some exceptional hands and coordination.

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Re: hot start/decompression lever
Reply #19 - 11/11/11 at 12:13:08

MotoBuddha wrote on 11/11/11 at 11:56:49:

Serowbot wrote on 11/11/11 at 10:41:58:

My bar-end mirrors, leave me with the mirror mounts open,... I wonder if I could rig a thumb lever there?...
Which would be better right hand or left?...

On the right you'd be trying to work the lever while also pushing the start button. THAT takes some exceptional hands and coordination.

A man would have to be all thumbs...
Wait a minute,... I am all thumbs!....
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MotoBuddha Serious Thumper Offline Let's roll! Posts: 1416 Charlotte, NC	Re: hot start/decompression lever Reply #20 - 11/11/11 at 12:25:25 Then there's this type of setup. I doubt the stock Savage switch pod has enough material or internal clearance to tap holes and bolt on an old school choke lever, but I offer this up in case it sparks any other ideas.
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MotoBuddha Serious Thumper Offline Let's roll! Posts: 1416 Charlotte, NC	Re: hot start/decompression lever Reply #21 - 11/13/11 at 10:53:39 I just ordered on of these. Only $19.95. It's for a 7/8" bar, of course, but removing the nylon sleeve will get me closer to 1". I could get the rest machined out. It looks like there would be more material left than others I've seen.
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Reply #22 - 11/13/11 at 16:56:30

I too ordered a clutch lever/perch with "hot start" lever. Problem turned out to be that the shorter-style clutch lever used on dirt bikes didn't clear the switch pod and even if it did it was too short to grab with all fingers as on most street bikes. Let me know how yours works out.

MotoBuddha wrote on 11/13/11 at 10:53:39:

I just ordered on of these. Only $19.95.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk182/motobuddha/9de3ff9e.jpg

It's for a 7/8" bar, of course, but removing the nylon sleeve will get me closer to 1". I could get the rest machined out. It looks like there would be more material left than others I've seen.

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MotoBuddha Serious Thumper Offline Let's roll! Posts: 1416 Charlotte, NC	Re: hot start/decompression lever Reply #23 - 11/13/11 at 18:04:33 Yeah, there will probably be problems wit the clutch lever, but I figure it's worth twenty bucks to see if there's anything I can do with it.
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Re: hot start/decompression lever
Reply #24 - 11/14/11 at 08:21:07

MotoBuddha wrote on 11/13/11 at 10:53:39:

I just ordered on of these. Only $19.95.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk182/motobuddha/9de3ff9e.jpg

It's for a 7/8" bar, of course, but removing the nylon sleeve will get me closer to 1". I could get the rest machined out. It looks like there would be more material left than others I've seen.

Can you post up the link to this?

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Reply #25 - 11/14/11 at 09:13:17

kevinphan wrote on 11/14/11 at 08:21:07:

MotoBuddha wrote on 11/13/11 at 10:53:39:

I just ordered on of these. Only $19.95.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk182/motobuddha/9de3ff9e.jpg

It's for a 7/8" bar, of course, but removing the nylon sleeve will get me closer to 1". I could get the rest machined out. It looks like there would be more material left than others I've seen.

Can you post up the link to this?

http://www.mxsouth.com/moose/moose-racing-levers-lever-sets-ultimatefly-clutc...

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Reply #26 - 11/19/11 at 11:07:16

The hot start lever thing arrived.

With the help of a skilled aluminum welder, I think it can be made to work. The inside arc of the lever is already 1 inch, so there's a problem I won't need to deal with. It looks like I could cut off the bottom part of an extra clutch perch I have, trim a bit from the hot start lever, then weld the two pieces together.

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Re: hot start/decompression lever
Reply #27 - 11/19/11 at 15:02:23

Bear in mind that you are going to have to apply enough force to open 2 exhaust valves. Is your left index finger strong enough to do that?
My old Enfield had a decomp release in the form of a smaller lever right under the clutch lever, but you could get three fingers on it. It was a kind of safety feature because you couldn't pull it in without pulling in the clutch lever as there wasn't enough room to get your fingers on the decomp lever alone, so you had to pull in the clutch to start it.

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MotoBuddha Serious Thumper Offline Let's roll! Posts: 1416 Charlotte, NC	Re: hot start/decompression lever Reply #28 - 11/19/11 at 16:15:19 Actually, it would be the left thumb with this setup. Besides, I can already turn the short lever down on the engine by hand. No problem.
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Re: hot start/decompression lever
Reply #29 - 11/19/11 at 17:15:51

MotoBuddha wrote on 11/19/11 at 16:15:19:

Actually, it would be the left thumb with this setup. Besides, I can already turn the short lever down on the engine by hand. No problem.

that lever should be going up.
you got your spring on backwards.

if you turn it up easy, then it's on the exhaust stroke and you'll won't need to operate your lever.

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