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mojo YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 36 SW MO Gender:	4_Speed_Trans 10/19/11 at 21:27:49 Saw a 2003 Savage advertised with a 4-speed gearbox. What year did Suzuki go from 4 to 5 speed? Should a person avoid buying one with a 4-speed? http://www.cycleclassifieds.us/c/1277/Suzuki/3.html
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Re: 4_Speed_Trans
Reply #1 - 10/19/11 at 21:30:46

means the engine was replaced with an older model.

'95 was the 1st 5speed

only 1 issue that I know of, starter kickback. but that's a problem solved. just install a stator cover and anti kickback gear from a late model.

biggest issue in my mind you'll never know the true miles on the engine.

looked at ad... most likely mislabeled, it has a late model jug and head.

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mojo YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 36 SW MO Gender:	Re: 4_Speed_Trans Reply #2 - 10/19/11 at 21:32:25 tks vers
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: 4_Speed_Trans Reply #3 - 10/19/11 at 21:33:56 see update
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: 4_Speed_Trans Reply #4 - 10/19/11 at 21:35:26 ask what the serial number is on the engine case, then you'll know for sure.
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sillydilly Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 231	Re: 4_Speed_Trans Reply #5 - 10/20/11 at 11:05:48 I get lots of problems with starter kickback on my 4spd
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drums1 Serious Thumper Offline '87 Savage Bashed--Down for the count Posts: 664 Racine, Wisconsin Gender:	Re: 4_Speed_Trans Reply #6 - 10/20/11 at 11:31:05 I have never noticed any starter kickback on my '87. Unless it's doing it and I just am not realizing it. What does it sound like and when does it do it?
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SurfJunkie Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 66	Re: 4_Speed_Trans Reply #7 - 10/20/11 at 11:38:14 Sounds like a nice metal "TWANG" during shutdown. I for one friggin hate my 4 speed. Trying to determine if its worth it for me to split the cases and swap to a 5, or maybe purchase a used good condition 5 speed motor and swap it.... Whats the going rate of a good running condition 5 speed motor ?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: 4_Speed_Trans Reply #8 - 10/20/11 at 12:03:46 Unless someones installed the anti kick back gear for you, shouldn't sound like anything. But it could sound worse... CRACK! 5spd should be doing the twang.
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drums1 Serious Thumper Offline '87 Savage Bashed--Down for the count Posts: 664 Racine, Wisconsin Gender:	Re: 4_Speed_Trans Reply #9 - 10/20/11 at 12:18:54 Hmmm mine makes lots of funny noises on startup, while running and on shutdown. Always has, so I never thought twice about it. Since the rock incedent, I'm just gonna ride it 'till it explodes. Then, I'll know for sure that I need a new motor.
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Re: 4_Speed_Trans
Reply #10 - 10/20/11 at 12:57:47

I bought an '87 back in '88, I've had a 2000 & still have a 2001. IMO, the 4 speed has a better gear spread. The 5 speeds actually have a slightly lower high gear. The extra gear was more of a sales tool than an improvement. Shocked

From my SSM, purchased 12/95.

87-88:

Primary reduction ratio - 1.888 (68/36)
Final reduction ratio- 2.956 (68/23)
1st. - 2.214 (31/34)
2nd.- 1.500 (27/18)
3rd.- 1.095 (23/21)
4th.- 0.875 (21/24)

95-? Don't think it's changed but that's as far as my manual goes.

Primary reduction gear -1.810 (67/37)
Final reduction ratio- 2.956 (68/23)
1st. - 2.333 (35/15)
2nd.- 1.578 (30/19)
3rd- 1.142 (24/21)
4th.- 0.956 (22/23)
5th.- 0.884 (23/26)

I just don't think it's worth it...the motor has enough torque it doesn't need it. With better jetting & a higher final ratio, in stock form the old Savages were faster on top end. Shocked

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