Gyrobob wrote on 03/25/12 at 14:29:28:serowbot wrote:
Quote:What about the fact that Mpsecatori points out,... borne out by millions of Mediterranean peoples over generations?... Low fat, whole grain, plenty of fish, and wine?...
Think how well they would have done had they not ingested all that wheat?
They survived in spite of the wheat, not because of it. Did a little research... not that I had to look very far to find the data I needed...
The peoples (as in "civilizations") who do NOT have virtually ANY grains in their diet are (without external intervention from "white man" aka the European explorer):
- the Inuit, aka Eskimos; live in mud huts or hide shelters in the summer, ice igloos in the winter;
- the Australian Aborigene;
- some "recently discovered, isolated" tribes in the Amazon basin and the jungles in Sumatra, Malaysia, Borneo.
They all fit in the "purely meat and a few veggies" regimen advocated by the fantasious doctor, all of them qualified for Advanced Neolithic at best, if not Mid Paleolithic.
Some used fire only if they found it burning, as they couldn't kindle it themselves.
They're all famous for living healthy lives, creating wonderful civilizations and living to the grand old age of 50-ish, after which avitaminosis kicks in and claims the bodies.
The Vitamin B complex can only be had from grains. It is VITAL for the correct funcioning of the nervous system
Ask Dr.Stupenduous where one can naturally get Vitamin B if not from grains.
As for Jesus, walk into any modern arabic restaurant and eat like a true Philistine, that's what Jesus ate.
NOT the Polish, Russian or Spanish menus claiming to be "Jewish" and handed down through the Middle Ages, those culinary habits were formed in regions which have nothing to do with Israel and Jesus.
Just walk into any Egyptian restaurant and order (I'll try to keep it grain free just this once):
- Babarannouj (purée of roasted aubergines)
- Hommos (purée of chick peas, they are legumes and should be OK)
- Foul (read as "fool") (purée of beans and olive oil)
- Tabbouleh (tomato and parsley salad with, guess what, whole boiled grains)
- Warah (vine leaves rolled and stuffed with rice and veggies)
- Boiled eggs with Huerrah (white sauce made with yogurt and chopped onion shoots)
- Keftah (fried meat balls, beef)
- Roast Lamb
- Roast Fish
Unfortunately, I will not be able to treat you to the other 90% of Arabic cuisine, because of the presence of rice
(which, let it be said, is NOT chinese, it is the one most common wild grain in the world, much more than wheat).
...not to mention all the sweets...
I don't understand where you can get your vitamin D without drinking milk or eating fresh cheeses (not aged and dry but fresh like cottage cheese, ricotta or mozzarella),
or how you can get your vitamin B without any grains whatsoever.
You can easily get all your protein from legumes, provided you still resort to dairy and eggs for SOME animal protein which are fundamental and not present in legumes - i.e. that is why vegetarians may be healthy but have an overall poorer red blood cell count compared to their meat-eating neighbors.
Similarly, you can skip much fruit if you know where to get your vitamin C; bell peppers, for example, are actually much richer in vitamin C than oranges or lemons.
Honey is THE healthiest source of elementary sugars, which are vital.
Incidentally, did you know that the enzymes used by the bees to prodice honey actually protect your teeth from cavities?
"In vino veritas" said the Romans, and half a glass of proper red wine delivers more antioxidants and relieves heart stress far more than the average BP pill.
I think we should "rethink" our eating habits - in this I do agree with Gyrobob.
But I would like to see that ONE person who will stay on this diet for 50 years and live to tell.
Mr.Atkins died of a death he could have easily avoided, I'm told.