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Re: 0-60 in 2 seconds less?  "Wheat Belly"
Reply #510 - 12/21/11 at 05:10:45
 
Sorry to contradict you, Gyrobob, but if you look at the guy with the huge belly...



THIS IS NOT VISCERAL FAT, it is an illness linked to excessive (binge) drinking which leads to fluid retention and severe liver and kidney disorder.
It is called ASCITIS or ASCITES and is generally caused by hepatic cyrrhosis - caused in turn by drinking too much for too long.

Here's a similar picture from a medical journal



The EVIDENCE is THIS PICTURE comes from a site called barplan - lose your beer belly (NOT WHEAT BELLY)



Furthermore, THIS PICTURE (guy in sunglasses paddling away)
IS NOT ABOUT LOVE HANDLES AND VISCERAL FAT !

That picture shows French President Nicolas Sarkozy in a canoe, and the circle shows readers how it was photoshopped to "slim away" his figure.

EVIDENCE: PRES. SARKOZY'S NEW HAMPSHIRE CANOE TRIP



If you can get gypped by pictures such as these, your sources need to be double checked.

Now you can either slam me for being a French-loving, garlic eating socialist, or you can acknowledge I am more skeptic than you.
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Reply #511 - 12/23/11 at 16:12:31
 
No biggy.  The pic was for shock effect, anyway.  It is still fairly close to what visceral fat in the extreme looks like.  Note that the other pics show both someone's photoshopped pics and the originals.

The pic is making the rounds as a suggestion for the surgeon general to use as a graphic pic on wheat-bearing products, similar to what they do on cigarette packs.

The visceral fat problem is still there.  Wheat causes it.  Very unhealthy.
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Reply #512 - 12/23/11 at 17:56:37
 
Gyrobob wrote on 12/23/11 at 16:12:31:
No biggy.  The pic was for shock effect, anyway.  It is still fairly close to what visceral fat in the extreme looks like.  Note that the other pics show both someone's photoshopped pics and the originals.

The pic is making the rounds as a suggestion for the surgeon general to use as a graphic pic on wheat-bearing products, similar to what they do on cigarette packs.

The visceral fat problem is still there.  Wheat causes it.  Very unhealthy.

Geez!... How 'bout we show a smallpox victim on candy wrappers to show kids they might get zits... Huh...
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Reply #513 - 12/23/11 at 19:49:44
 
Serowbot wrote on 12/23/11 at 17:56:37:
Gyrobob wrote on 12/23/11 at 16:12:31:
No biggy.  The pic was for shock effect, anyway.  It is still fairly close to what visceral fat in the extreme looks like.  Note that the other pics show both someone's photoshopped pics and the originals.

The pic is making the rounds as a suggestion for the surgeon general to use as a graphic pic on wheat-bearing products, similar to what they do on cigarette packs.

The visceral fat problem is still there.  Wheat causes it.  Very unhealthy.

Geez!... How 'bout we show a smallpox victim on candy wrappers to show kids they might get zits... Huh...


have you seen the graphics on cigarette packs these days?
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Reply #514 - 12/23/11 at 19:52:34
 
Here's another long-term diabetic situation.

http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/2011/12/diabetes-cured/
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Reply #515 - 12/24/11 at 10:05:24
 
OMG.. If that is actual from wheat, I am never eating wheat products
again.. Well ok after dinner today that is..  Wink
I did use some wheat mixed with other grains bread for my dressing.
Oh I am not going off the wagon for long. I have too much to gain
by staying on track.. Train jumped the tracks for a couple days, then
back to the gym and Zumba..
I can't nor will I even attempt to speak for all, all I do know again is
what I have eliminated as well as changed in my life to account for
the changes in my body.
I am not complaining at all.  I enjoy the smaller clothes and feeling
much better than I did 56 lbs ago... Smiley kim
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Reply #516 - 12/27/11 at 00:44:57
 
No biggy.  The pic was for shock effect, anyway.  It is still fairly close to what visceral fat in the extreme looks like.  Note that the other pics show both someone's photoshopped pics and the originals.


That comment reminds me of Aesop's fable about the fox and the grapes...

Since the fox couldn't jump up high enough to get to the grapes, she shrugged they weren't ripe enough anyway  Huh

As for the other pics being photoshopped, all they prove is they were photoshopped, NOT the cause of the "love handles".

You want a pic of visceral fat ? You got it !



Now go and investigate the cause of THAT visceral fat...

What's the point of slapping MAYONNAISE on a burger that would otherwise be healthy?

What's the point of slapping French Fries anywhere and everywhere?

What's the point of drinking an oversize jug of soft drinks?

Ever heard of spring water, salad and mustard? They're all low calorie, low/no sugar sides to your otherwise safe burger.

You want to know what's wrong with the "Wheat Belly" book?

It denies the fundamental effects of Vitamins B1, B2 and B12 in the metabolism of liver, spleen and pancreas.
Without those vitamins, those organs couldn't produce their enzymes, in sufficient quantities, if at all, and you'd go kaputt. Eat yet starve.

Of course, a know-it-all Doc could suggest you take food-integrator pills, but...
...what's the point of taking a pill containing a fundamental vitamin, extracted from the food you claim is unhealthy ?

Isn't the original food a safer way to intake those same vitamins?

OR

Are you going to convince us that a Vitamin C pill is safer than orange juice ?  Huh
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Reply #517 - 12/27/11 at 07:03:37
 
This post is not intended to be vulgar or gross.

There is a doc who flies from my airport, and he's a urologist.

He was chatting Sat. morning in our lobby, as a bunch of us usually do.  He told of two morbidly obese people who came into his office in the past month.

One was a woman who had a suspected infection of the urethra.  She was so fat and has so many folds of fat that he could not find her girl thingy.  He couldn't confirm his suspicion of the infection, but gave her antibiotics anyhow as a protective measure.

A man came in, complaining that his thingy was shrinking.  The guy was so fat that folds of fat were simply surrounding his thingy amd hiding it.

And we don't think that we have an epidemic of obesity?
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Reply #518 - 12/27/11 at 10:27:21
 
Interesting,.... women have a "girl thingy",... but men just have a "thingy"... Huh...

Raptorize... Cool...
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Reply #519 - 12/28/11 at 04:04:20
 
I read Prof. Linus Pauling's book on Vitamin C.



Never mind the title "How to live longer..." etc., what Prof. Pauling claimed is that the FDA DRD (daily recommended dose) of Vitamin C is about 200 times LESS than what we actually need.

He based this claim on two factors:
1) most mammals are capable of synthesizing (creating) Vitamin C within their own system, namely in the liver; humans are not capable of this.
2) those mammals which DO produce their own Vitamin C, produce it in proportion to their own body mass, in amounts which, in a "normal, healthy human" would mean about 1200 mg/day.

The FDA DRD is 60 mg.

Huh Why so low ?

The same, apparently, with other vitamins such as B1, B2 and B12, not to mention Vitamin A (produced in the liver).

Mediterranean Europeans happen to eat regularly liver and kidney from beef, pork or lamb as a normal part of their diet,
but in Northern Europe (hence, in North America) liver and kidneys are often considered "offal" and as such "dirty"  Huh "poor man's meat"  Roll Eyes if not "dog food"  Sad

Prof. Pauling was a Nobel Prize for Chemistry AND a Nobel Prize for Peace (for his campaigning to end nuclear test blasting).



Incidentally, in the early 1970's he foresaw the 1975-76 epidemic of swine flu, and saw right.
He also identified the 1918-1919 "Spanish Flu" which wreaked havoc in both Europe and USA as swine flu.
Pfizer and the WHO insisted we take a vaccine for swine and bird flu the last few years, I simply had Vitamin C and never even had the "normal" flu...

I consider HIM to be a good point of reference.
AND
He's American, from Oregon.

See also "Orthomolecular Medicine" and "Megavitamins".

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Reply #520 - 12/28/11 at 05:29:39
 
Serowbot -

When I typed my post about the urologist's comments, I used the anatomically correct terms.

The stupid auto correct that is a part of this forum changed them.  I guess we aren't deemed mature enough to use correct terms in a serious discussion.
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Reply #521 - 12/28/11 at 05:33:46
 
Maurizio -

Organ meat such as liver or kidney has long been a part of the American diet, especially calf's liver and chicken livers.

Unfortunately, since they are loaded with cholesterol, I now have to avoid them.  But I sure wish I could have a plate of sauteed chicken livers, onions, and that great Asian yellow gravy - yummy.

Many Americans now avoid organ meat for the same reason I do.
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Reply #522 - 12/28/11 at 06:56:01
 
Jerry Eichenberger wrote on 12/28/11 at 05:33:46:
Organ meat such as liver or kidney has long been a part of the American diet, especially calf's liver and chicken livers.

Unfortunately, since they are loaded with cholesterol, I now have to avoid them.  But I sure wish I could have a plate of sauteed chicken livers, onions, and that great Asian yellow gravy - yummy.

Many Americans now avoid organ meat for the same reason I do.


Research this a little further and you'll see the amount of cholesterol and fat your put into your bod is nearly irrelevant.  If the wheat/grains are not there, and the carbs are kept low enough (maybe 50 grams daily), the body is in a forget-about-using-carbs-for-fuel mode, and it focuses on fat for fuel.  When in this mode is burns the fat it needs and does NOT store excess fat.  The liver figures out how much cholesterol the body needs, uses it, and dumps the rest.

The idea that we need to restrict fat and cholesterol has been obsolete for a while, even though a lot of the planet has not gotten word of it yet.

Go ahead and cook up some "sauteed chicken livers, onions, and that great Asian yellow gravy."  As long as the gravy has no wheat or other grain-starch used for thickeners, and there is no sugar in it, that'll be a very healthy dish.


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Reply #523 - 12/29/11 at 08:42:24
 
Gyro -

Back about 12 years or so ago, I went on the Cleveland Clinic "Protein Sparing Fast" to lose about 30 pounds.  It's a no carb diet plan developed at that hospital.  It is basically a fast, but calls for eating protein and green veggies to spare loss of muscle tissue.  I ate lots of meat, fish, and some chicken, altho I really don't like chicken very much in any dish.

Weight came off.  All was good in the world, as I resumed what that plan calls "maintenace eating", which adds some complex carbos, just enough to maintain one's new weight.  I still ate lots of meat.

In 2004 I had an onset of chest pain while at the EAA Oshkosh show - what a place for a pilot to realize that he now has cardiac problems.  When I got back home, I had two stents put in my LAD artery.  My cholesterol level on the operating table was 280.

Sorry, but livers in mammals and most other animals are the factories that make cholesterol; eat it and you are eating a huge quantity.

Since 2004 I've been on a low cholesterol diet, and with the aid of a small dose of Lipitor, I'm down to total cholesterol of around 130.

And since 2004, my cardiac condition is not only stable, but has improved, and I'm back to flying, thankfully.

I agree that dietary intake of cholesterol makes up for only about 15% of what causes high cholesterol, but when you have a liver like mine that makes way too much to begin with, every little bit of careful diet planning helps the total.
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Reply #524 - 12/29/11 at 11:17:07
 
Many of the folks adopting the no-wheat no-grain low-carb no-sugar system have to be taken off their cholesterol drugs and diabetes drugs because taking the bod back to what it was designed to eat removes the need to treat conditions caused by it being forced to eat what is was NOT designed to eat.
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