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Reply #30 - 10/02/11 at 12:13:08

I think the one up front is supposed to be in 2 pieces. There is a circular recession in the gear to hold it in place. However, I have no idea what goes on the back. You didn't happen to take pictures when you took the other one apart did you? I'm wondering if I can't get a replacement retainer and put this guy back together.

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Reply #31 - 10/02/11 at 13:15:45

You're right, the 2 half rings nest on the small gear side.
On the other side goes a standard external retaining ring.
It's going to be a metric size, but should be available anywhere these things are sold.

When I had to put it back together, it took a good sized vise and 2 sockets to squeeze the sonabeech back together.

If you can't figure it out, mail it to me.

When you talk to the ahole that sold you it, tell'm for $20 you can get it repaired. or tell'm to refund the cost + all shipping.

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Bobber Fett Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 64 Chapel Hill, NC Gender:	Re: New (to me) bike just hit 20K = annoying probl Reply #32 - 10/02/11 at 13:35:41 Thanks, I have a vise and can prob get it to work. What kind of retaining ring is it? Will it get in the way when I put it back into the engine if I don't get the exact match? Would any of these work?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: New (to me) bike just hit 20K = annoying probl Reply #33 - 10/02/11 at 14:39:29 The middle one
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Bobber Fett Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 64 Chapel Hill, NC Gender:	Re: New (to me) bike just hit 20K = annoying probl Reply #34 - 10/02/11 at 14:51:10 Rock on! I see a trip to Lowes in my very near future.
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Bobber Fett Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 64 Chapel Hill, NC Gender:	Re: New (to me) bike just hit 20K = annoying probl Reply #35 - 10/02/11 at 18:02:37 I rigged this up to help fix the part: I got the retaining ring in and it covers most of the lip but not the whole thing. This should be fine right? Apparently Lowe's doesn't carry the exact size, but I may try to find one at work tomorrow if needed.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: New (to me) bike just hit 20K = annoying probl Reply #36 - 10/02/11 at 18:37:58 Worst case, the ring pops off and it won't start. Hopefully it doesn't snap it 2 and get lodged somewhere critical. And hopefully not at the furthest end of your travels.
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Bobber Fett Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 64 Chapel Hill, NC Gender:	Re: New (to me) bike just hit 20K = annoying probl Reply #37 - 10/02/11 at 19:03:32 Haha, very reassuring . I'll likely see if I can't find a better fit at work tomorrow.
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Reply #38 - 10/03/11 at 10:45:41

Because I'm currently bored at work, I thought I'd work out my RPMs from a video I put up at the start of this thread. I worked it up using audacity in the same way an audio tachometer would do.

The top is a clip of the sound from the video and the second one is the time-based FFT.
For those unfamiliar, it's a plot of frequencies present in the sound clip (AKA the harmonics of my engine sound).

The next part is the average frequency spectrum plotted for the sound clip.
This gives the average information about the whole 5 seconds that the clip contains (making it much more accurate).

The engine harmonics show that it's basically 12Hz, maybe more like 12.5, but no real biggie.
So 12Hz*60sec = 720 explosions per minute.
However, I think that 4 stroke engines do 2 rotations per explosion, so 1440 RPMs.
I think that is pretty high right? I prob am wasting fuel at red lights....

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EJID Serious Thumper Offline Work to ride and ride to work. Posts: 1536 Pocatello, ID Gender:	Re: New (to me) bike just hit 20K = annoying probl Reply #39 - 10/03/11 at 11:33:04 Not going to check your math, but the idle does sound a bit higher than mine. You want to maintain at least 1,000 RPM at idle so that the cam journals keep enough oil flowing, if you lower too much you risk major engine damage.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: New (to me) bike just hit 20K = annoying probl Reply #40 - 10/03/11 at 11:46:16 a little fast don't hurt much if you're not stopped for long. I would back it off to about 11 to 12 hundred.
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EJID Serious Thumper Offline Work to ride and ride to work. Posts: 1536 Pocatello, ID Gender:	Re: New (to me) bike just hit 20K = annoying probl Reply #41 - 10/03/11 at 12:05:27 I just added a tach and realized mine was set about 1400-1500. Out of curiosity I backed it down to about 1000 and thought it sounded REALLY LOW and ended turning it back up to about 1100 and felt comfortable with it being there.
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Re: New (to me) bike just hit 20K = annoying probl
Reply #42 - 10/03/11 at 13:02:28

Yeah, I was actually thinking of turning it down to 1100. EJID, I've heard that the oil pump doesn't get up to the cylinder if its lower than 1000, so prob a smart move to turn it back up.

So I got a better retaining ring at work, I also got one of the ones in the far right on the post below. It seems a lot beefier, but I couldn't get it into the groove. I wonder if it's a bit too small. Think it's worth the switch, or will this one hold up better?

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: New (to me) bike just hit 20K = annoying probl Reply #43 - 10/03/11 at 13:28:56 The one you are using now is correct and looks right. the far left ring is not correct as it's an internal ring, not external.
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: New (to me) bike just hit 20K = annoying probl Reply #44 - 10/03/11 at 14:41:49 I really don't know but looks to me like that ring should be in deeper is that alway in,Are do you need a size smaller.
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