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Re: How responsible is it to ride?
Reply #15 - 08/23/11 at 18:19:13
 
Myself I just got into riding 4 years ago.. Wished I knew what
a blast it was and therapy as well, when I was younger.
My hubby also rides a bike.
If something happens, it happens. I have already been down
and recovered. Could not wait to get back in the saddle.
My mother hates the fact that I ride, yet has realized that
I am going to ride, no matter what she says.
It may very well be what I get taken out of this world on..
I will be doing what I love, if it does.. I won't be sitting in a
rocking chair singing to myself..
You have to make up your own mind.
Yes you have dependent children and a wife.
Yet anything can happen, anywhere.
Life is way too short to not enjoy it doing something
you enjoy.. Just my 2 cents worth... Hugs.. Smiley kim
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Reply #16 - 08/23/11 at 18:56:07
 
LarryC wrote on 08/23/11 at 14:45:50:
Take a MSF New Rider Course. You not only learn the basics, but you also save on your insurance.

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All accidents are predictable and preventable-MSF

BS I taught myself and never been down in 40 years of riding.Forget the riders courses and teach yourself.
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Reply #17 - 08/23/11 at 19:28:15
 
Define responsible.  You're burning a lot less gas riding than you are driving a gas hog, and that is responsible.  Personally, I need the speed rush and got the bug when I was 25, after riding a friend's Bultaco.  I got a small used motorcycle to ride while in college, saving myself lots of gas even though it was cheap back then.  
Living the example in Verslagen's  post, had a guy in a plumbing truck turn across a lane in which I had the right of way.  I had my son on the tank in front of me on the Bridgestone I was riding, and managed to drag him off the bike with me as we jumped the curb avoiding the truck that had stopped crossways in the lane.  The bike was totalled, he and I were both wearing helmets and fine.  That did not make me quit riding, it just made me ride paranoid, and I have ridden the street paranoid ever since, watching every stopped vehicle and every side street.  I never get on a motorcycle without a helmet, having seen several split in two in motocross races while the riders walked away with headaches.  I think wearing one is responsible if you have a family.
I am now on motorcycle number 19, having gone through 19 years of racing motocross and enduros, and another 25 on street bikes, and my son still rides 38 years later, although I wouldn't be caught dead leading with my head on his crotch rocket.  
I feel a lot more responsible running errands on the Savage than in a 12 mpg pickup.  I never felt my family suffered when I bought and rode a used bike, since I did the maintenance work my self to save money, and my being in a better frame of mind after a ride and in much better physical shape while riding off-road made my high-stress job easier on me and thus on the family.
So there's a few ways to look at responsibility.
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Reply #18 - 08/23/11 at 19:29:58
 
I am also a paramedic and I have my first child on the way I have thought about this. I see it the same way most of these guys do, don't trust the other guy on the road be safe and drop it a rung or two if needed and as you should know in our line of work no matter what when it's somemore time it's their time and anything and everything can be the cuase and the people who fear that and then embrace the that fact always live a little close to the edge but still have firm footing and at least one hand on the rails. So all in all it's your choice but I say go for it just prepare for each thinking check the bike like the check list for the bus and allways wear my PPE for the ride. Wink

And yeah I have never had anyone call and say they had a great ride today but I have had many a call where the riders did make it and still ride. Smiley
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Reply #19 - 08/23/11 at 19:33:11
 


It is also a very good stress relief after a bad day at work and know you know what i mean.

BIGDADDYMC wrote on 08/23/11 at 19:29:58:
I am also a paramedic and I have my first child on the way I have thought about this. I see it the same way most of these guys do, don't trust the other guy on the road be safe and drop it a rung or two if needed and as you should know in our line of work no matter what when it's somemore time it's their time and anything and everything can be the cuase and the people who fear that and then embrace the that fact always live a little close to the edge but still have firm footing and at least one hand on the rails. So all in all it's your choice but I say go for it just prepare for each thinking check the bike like the check list for the bus and allways wear my PPE for the ride. Wink

And yeah I have never had anyone call and say they had a great ride today but I have had many a call where the riders did make it and still ride. Smiley

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Reply #20 - 08/23/11 at 19:40:05
 
I suspect bill67 would agree the world is a different, and less forgiving, place from what it was 40 years ago. The MSF BRC is well worth it. Take the Course, if you haven't, and practice, practice, practice. Knowledge is power, and in this case, safety. Guaranteed, no, but its's an invaluable leg up. And consider that honing your motorcycle skills will make you a MUCH better automobile driver (learning to think of oneself as invisible is invaluable), to the benefit of your precious baby.
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Reply #21 - 08/23/11 at 20:08:13
 
I have been in two accidents one on my bike and one driving a tow truck. The bike accident I was doing a test ride on the bike two weeks after my shoulder surgery. The tow truck I spent five months in the hospital. Based on my experience ride the bike stay out of tow trucks.
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Reply #22 - 08/23/11 at 20:41:46
 
Ride responsibly, have fun, and stop whining.  Or quit.
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Reply #23 - 08/23/11 at 22:15:50
 
Sitting around the Digger dinner table in Houston one sultry evening were SWMBO, me, and our two kids, back in '97.

I had been working for NASA for just a few months and it was pretty evident that my training was getting to be VERY pricey.

"Well," I said, "if I'm ever gonna give up motocross and street bikes, I guess now is the time!"

My daughter, 11, asked why.

"My training is really expensive nowadays." I said, "Seems kinda irresponsible of me to be taking risks in my personal life that could easily put it all to waste....and unfair to NASA and the taxpayers who are footing the bill."

To which my son, 13 (and, I'll never forget this), replied, "But Dad, that's not who they hired."

True story.

Without bikes, I would not be who I am, nor would I have been where I've been.....it's as simple as that!


BTW, I tell friends who come to me for advice on riding, "Get you a cheap bike you can learn on and that will be easy to sell.  Ride for one year.  Then, look at yourself in the mirror and ask, 'Can I live without this?'  If the answer is 'yes,' sell the bike and get on with your life.  It's too dangerous a hobby to do unless you absolutely can't live without it!"
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Reply #24 - 08/24/11 at 06:24:32
 
everyone has a slightly different view & it all depends on your own personal values and beliefs:

I am conservative by nature and a safety professional by trade so I felt that i had to weigh the risk vs the reward - I used to ride bicycles when i first got married - almost got taken out in a residential neighborhood by two cars that were chasing each other at a high rate of speed and did not see me - that single experience made me reflect on the "what if's" - I decided it would be more responsible for me to get off the bike eliminate the risk exposure from that activity because i had to support a wife and 3 kids - there was no other option for me, in my mind - I had to control/eliminate the risk........then once the kds got grown and out I decided I could afford to take some risks since I was worth more to my wife dead than alive and I was done raising children.....so I got a motorcycle, took the safety classes, only ride when it is dry and daylight and i use it for commuting mainly - I have only ridden for fun 2 times since i got the bike a little over a year ago....I cant get short or long term disability because of other medical conditions so I have to think about the risks involved in exposing myself to potential injury by "sport riding" so I choose to control my risks by only riding when it is dry, daylight and only short communte to work and back <10miles round trip a day......my son came to vist a few weeks ago with his R6 we took 5 hours on a Sunday to take a ride up in the mountains (sport riding experience number 2) risk exposure high - it was a lot of fun but the whole time i was worried about something happening to him since he has 2 1/2 yr old and another on the way......I would prefer he sold the bike and eliminated the risk for his families sake - but it is HIS decision not mine - back in April i did a charity group ride (sport riding experience number 1) this a controlled escorted event risk exposure limited......I will do 1 of these limited risk exposure charity group rides a year - going up in the mountains on the twisties for fun probably not by myself and probably not with my son again he will be too busy being a dad & a Marine......if my cycling buddies at work ask me to go ride the twisties i might try it again.

bottom line your life your choice what risks are you willing to take and at what potential cost?
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Reply #25 - 08/24/11 at 10:15:44
 
I quit riding years ago, started that decision for the same reasons you did, took me 20 years to get back to something I really enjoy!. (Ok that and a safety provision at my work for supervisors...aka I took the money and ran!) The problem is once you stop there's always a reason not to start again. Can't afford the time, can't afford another vehicle and insurance, should be using the time and money for something for the family etc. Ultimately the decision is what makes the best sense for you but don't short change yourself. Everyone needs SOME kind of outlet. Hunting, sports, even jogging through town ALL have risk and time requirements. How you manage those risks says a lot about your level of exposure!
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Reply #26 - 08/24/11 at 21:31:08
 
Life is a adventure and full of risks. Only you can decide on how much risk you want to take. If you carry on riding you can reduce the risk by riding responsibly. Even a slow evening ride can be a good getaway from the joys of family when you need some time away  Wink
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Reply #27 - 08/24/11 at 21:57:13
 
Heck

Eating chicken or fish can be more dangerous that riding a Motorcycle if you doin't pay attention to what your doing !

Just keep you mind on what your doing ,  and  remember " There ain't no big hurry to get there ,  It the ride that matters ,  Drag the pegs when its safe to play - not in downtown traffic"

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Reply #28 - 08/25/11 at 01:13:18
 
I met this guy in Glacier National Park that was in his middle 50's and said it was time to hang up his bike. He thought that at his age motorcycle riding was too dangerous, so he bought a sports car. The same week he bought it he went for a ride in the mountains and a boulder came down took the top off of his car as well as his scalp. He was still recovering but decided he could die lots of different ways so he bought him a new bike.
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Reply #29 - 08/26/11 at 00:32:46
 
I have been married 34 yrs. I quit riding after I married, because I didn't want to risk losing my income. 2 yrs ago my wife ok'd a mc when we discussed it. Everthing's paid for and I have life ins.  She recently said, even though it's dangerous, it's the best thing for me to have a bike as therapy. Discuss it with your wife and see how she feels. I think this decision should be made by you and the one who loves you. I could argue both sides all day. You two are a family. Get her input.  Smiley    
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