RidgeRunner13 wrote on 08/18/11 at 06:13:36:


(Trumpets Sounding)  Now that makes total sense!  

All I know is that after installing the Raptor, I have not had any fuel supply issues one way or the other.  Personally, I never cared for the whole vacuum operated fuel valve concept.  The first bike I bought with one, I was always trying to turn it OFF out of habit.    ON/OFF/RESERVE... simple and time tested.

Got us a poll again, vote for as many as you feel like voting for.

If you screw up, you can delete your vote and then re-vote again correctly.

The sticking float/leaking valve and seat part -- you could mention whacking the bowl with a screwdriver handle or you are gonna have newbies tearing down their carbs right and left and screwing up their carb teardown/rebuilds right and left.

Durn aggravating vac troublesucker -- makes it hard to even talk about testing it ....

I've found the raptor from the following site for less than Ron ayers,$17 from this place,less if you enter coupon code meetsister during checkout.got mine for $15 and change.

http://www.powersportsplus.com/parts/detail/yamaha/YP-5LP-24500-01-00.html

Markusublime wrote on 08/18/11 at 14:13:26:


shoot, wish i saw this just 8 hours earlier. . . ahaha

OK, so lets say the raptor does not fix my problem of over flooding gas into the carb and evnetually dripping slightly down the airbox breather tube on the bottom of the bike.

This would leave that my problem is a stuck float?

I've got my carb out and cleaned it in berrymans (which i found is bunk these days   ) and also ran two appropriate does's of SeaFoam.

My night situation still persists on with the bike not being able to idle long enough on its own to warm up, before it shortly dies off. :'(

-also yesterday DURING THE DAY when it was warm as hell, on a small ride up and down some hills with my buddy. My bike running perfect on the "ON" position of the petcock was acting up on me at half tank. I pulled into a gas station and filled up and could not start the bike easily even after having ran the bike for 1 hour. after three failed starts even with a little throttle the bike finally started up fine and the trip was continued.

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How would I fix the possibility of my floats sticking even after the cleaning of my carb? the ultimate replacing of the float itself???

A name that has been around as long as Berrymans, doesn't stay there by not doing the job. Its top rated in my book, always has been.

Maybe you would look for the reason the float is sticking,.....if it is sticking. Maybe they are bent, which could also give it a wrong fuel level in the bowl. Then again, it probably is the needle valve.

Do you have an inline fuel filter tween the tank and the carb ? You should have one. Suzuski didn't put one there because it didn't need one when they owned it

I'm curious,....
Has the Savage had the "Vac Petcock" since day one ?

It get down to that, doesn't it?

With the vac petock in place there is so much "noise" and so many conflicting symptoms that you can't proceed with confidence to do much of anything.

Take all of that murk out of the water (replace vac petcock with a Raptor) and suddenly whatever is still wrong sticks out very clearly.


Now in this particular case, we shall see won't we?    What remains, if anything once the vac petcock is out of the picture?


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Do you want to fix your vac petcock instead of replacing it?  

Veslagen is the best source for the issues that come back to see you AFTER you fix your vac petcock.   The VAC HOSE is the first re-occuring item, Veslagen routinely replaces his vac hose yearly as a preventive maintenance item.    Second thing an occasional time/occurace based rebuild of the rubber diaphragm for stiffening or splitting.    This is years and years and years between needing, but it will happen.   Each time it costs as much as a $15 powersports Raptor would cost just to buy the diaphragm rebuild kit.

Lastly -- do all the vac petcock symptoms disappear completely even with this rigorous routine of rebuilds/hose replacements?

Honestly prevails, Verslagen admits to seeing occasional mild occurrences of high speed fuel stumbling (I keep telling him to keep up with these stumbles and plot his oil consumption against them on his freshly rebuilt motor but he just growls at me)


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OK, lets talk about the times the Raptor change out didn't fix the various issues that the newbies drug in behind them when they first arrived.

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         We are still waiting for that list of newbie items the Raptor change out didn't fix.        Routy says he's got some, so I am sure he will tell us (in good time, give him some time to do his research).    I call on the newbies themselves to speak up if the Raptor didn't fix it -- we got a crow bet on this so this is serious stuff now.

Yes, I went out and shot a big buck crow  and I got him in the freezer should I need to thaw him out and munch on him.

Eventually, I know I am gonna get to take me a bite of musty crow (but so far the crow is intact)





Now, will those that say there is nothing wrong with the stock vacuum actuated petcock agree to sit down with me at the crow table and make the counter bet -- that changing out the vac petcock doesn't fix/help anything?