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New owner - pipes and decel popping
08/05/11 at 08:11:00

Just picked up a '02 Savage for my kid to learn on. I used to ride a
'truder 1400, seems like this engine is 1/2 that engine, pretty cool.

Question 1) Anyone run theirs with the stock header pipe only ( sans muffler)? Looking for more loudness for safelty sake and maybe a bit more preformance. Looks like I could just take the muffler off, put in pro-pipe baffle and perhaps re-jet.

Question 2) I rode her home yesterday, about 30 miles on the slab. Bike pops on decel, like its got an exhaust leak. Normal for this bike or not? If normal, what can be done to eliminate or reduce it?

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28660 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: New owner - pipes and decel popping Reply #1 - 08/05/11 at 09:42:49 If you are concerned about a little popping,... I really don't recommend going to an open pipe... I don't recommend going to an open pipe anyway... Way too loud,.. and you'll burn your exhaust valves...
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Re: New owner - pipes and decel popping
Reply #2 - 08/05/11 at 10:33:54

The decel popping is normal, and it will pop when you turn off the engine (on an all stock bike). At least that's what mine did (2005 LS650 all stock when I got it) and the guy at the Suzuki shop told me it was normal.

Also, I'd recommend getting a license plate frame, because the vibration made mine crack and almost fall off. The previous owner of my bike thought someone stole his license plate... lol, it still had the corners attached to the bike Cheesy

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Re: New owner - pipes and decel popping
Reply #3 - 08/05/11 at 11:19:42

wrench13 wrote on 08/05/11 at 08:11:00:

Question 1) Anyone run theirs with the stock header pipe only ( sans muffler)? Looking for more loudness for safelty sake and maybe a bit more preformance. Looks like I could just take the muffler off, put in pro-pipe baffle and perhaps re-jet.

Question 2) I rode her home yesterday, about 30 miles on the slab. Bike pops on decel, like its got an exhaust leak. Normal for this bike or not? If normal, what can be done to eliminate or reduce it?

+1 to what Sero says
performance will suffer, mpg will suffer, neighbors will suffer, the kid will suffer due to lost hearing, cops knowing where he's at every time he gets on the bike, but then so will you. Grin

couple of options to make it a little louder... put a dyna muf on or drill out the stock muf.

A little decel popping is normal, excessive may indicate an air leak or a dirty carb. Check the header bolts and muf clamp. Or clean the carb.

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Re: New owner - pipes and decel popping
Reply #5 - 08/05/11 at 14:09:12

wrench13 says, "Looking for more loudness for safelty sake "

Incredible there are still folks who subscribe to this nonsense.

Hey, wrench, a short search will turn up a few threads that debunk the idea about loud pipes saving lives.

The popping on decel is a common prob, and, assuming the exhaust system is tight, a few carb adjustments can fix most of that.

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Re: New owner - pipes and decel popping
Reply #6 - 08/06/11 at 22:38:31

Gyrobob wrote on 08/05/11 at 14:09:12:

wrench13 says, "Looking for more loudness for safelty sake "

Incredible there are still folks who subscribe to this nonsense. Hey, wrench, a short search will turn up a few threads that debunk the idea about loud pipes saving lives.

The popping on decel is a common prob, and, assuming the exhaust system is tight, a few carb adjustments can fix most of that.

Call it nonsense if you want but my real world riding experience proves the theory of "loud pipes save lives" to me.
First year I had the savage i was run off the road several times, and no it wasnt due to lack of riding experience as this isnt my first bike and the likely reason i was never hurt or did damage to the bike is because i could clearly tell what the offending a-hole was about to do. I saw ahead of time and chose the ditch over the hood.
Drivers often simply werent aware of me being there.
I've installed a SE muffler and for the last 2 years i havent been run off the road since.(until a couple weeks ago. 16 year old who just got his liscence didnt even look my direction before whipping out of his driveway into fairly heavy traffic. I was able to swerve around him and get past with about 4 inches to spare. Needless to say I stopped the bike in the middle of the lane right in front of him and gave him a few choice words).
Not only are drivers more aware of me, so are the deer. I literally watch them scatter at the sound of me from 50 yards away.

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Re: New owner - pipes and decel popping
Reply #8 - 08/07/11 at 03:50:31

BurnPgh wrote on 08/06/11 at 22:38:31:

Gyrobob wrote on 08/05/11 at 14:09:12:

wrench13 says, "Looking for more loudness for safelty sake "

Incredible there are still folks who subscribe to this nonsense. Hey, wrench, a short search will turn up a few threads that debunk the idea about loud pipes saving lives.

The popping on decel is a common prob, and, assuming the exhaust system is tight, a few carb adjustments can fix most of that.

Call it nonsense if you want but my real world riding experience proves the theory of "loud pipes save lives" to me.
First year I had the savage i was run off the road several times, and no it wasnt due to lack of riding experience as this isnt my first bike and the likely reason i was never hurt or did damage to the bike is because i could clearly tell what the offending a-hole was about to do. I saw ahead of time and chose the ditch over the hood.
Drivers often simply werent aware of me being there.
I've installed a SE muffler and for the last 2 years i havent been run off the road since.(until a couple weeks ago. 16 year old who just got his liscence didnt even look my direction before whipping out of his driveway into fairly heavy traffic. I was able to swerve around him and get past with about 4 inches to spare. Needless to say I stopped the bike in the middle of the lane right in front of him and gave him a few choice words).
Not only are drivers more aware of me, so are the deer. I literally watch them scatter at the sound of me from 50 yards away.

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Gyrobob Serious Thumper Offline Posers ain't motorcyclists Posts: 2571 Newnan, GA Gender:	Re: New owner - pipes and decel popping Reply #10 - 08/07/11 at 06:59:51 arteacher wrote on 08/07/11 at 06:43:59: verslagen1 wrote on 08/06/11 at 23:36:32: +1 on what burny says and my experience replicates his to a tee. +2. you can lead a horse to water,..... Do some real research on the issue and you'll learn the fallacy.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: New owner - pipes and decel popping Reply #11 - 08/07/11 at 07:43:05 Gyrobob wrote on 08/07/11 at 06:59:51: you can lead a horse to water,..... +1
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Routy Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2280 Winston Oregon Gender:	Re: New owner - pipes and decel popping Reply #12 - 08/07/11 at 07:49:16 And just how would research figure that out ?? x4 While loud exhaust scares the he!! outta me now and then, I lotsa times have heard a bike long before I saw them along side my cage, and just may have prevented me from a dead spot move over. I hate loud bikes, but I do believe they could be more safe than unsafe.
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: New owner - pipes and decel popping Reply #14 - 08/07/11 at 07:59:00 Put loud pipes on your car you will be much saver.
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