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Bike engine slowly dies at around 70 MPH
08/04/11 at 22:54:51
 
I have a 2003 Savage, it's my first bike and I bought it with a few months ago with barely 5K on it.  I find myself adjusting the throttle screw often, is this common?  I also have the bike slowly die on me on the highway at around 70mph once in a while.  The mechanic says its probably the governor and he'll check it out when i bring it in again for the break job and new tires.  Does any of this make sense?  Can the governor be adjusted?
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Re: Bike engine slowly dies at around 70 MPH
Reply #1 - 08/04/11 at 23:06:15
 
No the savage doesn't have a governor
and no you shouldn't need to adjust the idle speed often.

When the bikes starts to die at 70, try putting the petcock to prime.
could be the vacuum hose needs to be replaced.

save some money, do the front brakes yourself.  instructions in the tech section.
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Reply #2 - 08/04/11 at 23:26:30
 
Your mechanic is an idiot...  the Savage has no governor.
If it isn't a leaky vacuum line, like Versy says... it's a clogged gas tank vent...

My money is on the vacuum line...

I wouldn't trust the fool with my brakes... they're kinda' important...
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Reply #3 - 08/04/11 at 23:29:47
 
Wish I had the time and tools to work on it myself but it's my main source of transportation and I can't afford to tinker with it myself for now.

I have had to use the prime from time to time.  I'll mention the vacuum hose to the mechanic.  I guess it's not something they look into when they do tune-ups.

Thanx Smiley
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Reply #4 - 08/04/11 at 23:32:13
 
it's so hard to find a good mechanic these days, last one I went to didn't even know how to remove the seat to change the battery, and it was at a dealership that sold Savages, scary right? :/
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Reply #5 - 08/04/11 at 23:54:26
 
Not too uncommon to get the bottom rung of mechanics when you have a savage.  They look at as risk, if the boob screws up... how much will it cost him?  not much.

Learn about your bike and how it should be repaired.  you may not have the skills or tools, but I guaranty you boob doesn't either.  You need to be around to tell him where the battery is and loosen the pinch bolt on the front axle to remove it w/o a hammer... no I'm not kidding.
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Reply #6 - 08/04/11 at 23:57:29
 
Sorry,... okay, don't tell him he's an idiot, if you have to use him... Lips Sealed...

The dealer is the worst... they'll turn a Savage over to a newbie/kid to learn on...

Try Craigslist, for a good backyard/biker mechanic... You may have to go through a few to find a good one, but when you find a good one, you can trust, it'll be worth it...
You'll save oodles... 'cause he won't charge you for adjusting the "governor"...

The Savage is a simple machine,... that's why, lots of us old timers like it...
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Reply #7 - 08/05/11 at 00:52:35
 
My new mechanic shop just started doing work on cruisers, they use to specialize on sports bikes but I guess their expanding their cliente to cruisers and I heard they were pretty good with customer service to say the least.  Finally, does the 2003 Savage have a computer in it or is my mechanic really as clueless as me?

Thanks guys Smiley
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Reply #8 - 08/05/11 at 01:16:18
 
No engine computer on it,those are used to control fuel injected engines.the savage/s40 has a carb for fuel control.the best way to learn about the bike is to work on it,it doesn't take a lot of tools to do just about anything on these bikes,I find myself using a Phillips screw driver and 10mm and 8mm socket to do most repairs on it.a basic socket set is usually all you need.If you're not sure how to do something just ask here, a lot of skilled folks on here who are always willing to help and know these bikes well.
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Re: Bike engine slowly dies at around 70 MPH
Reply #9 - 08/05/11 at 05:14:15
 
marioivargas wrote on 08/04/11 at 23:32:13:
it's so hard to find a good mechanic these days, last one I went to didn't even know how to remove the seat to change the battery, and it was at a dealership that sold Savages, scary right? :/

I have to say that sometimes you could be in better hands at a dealer, only because they know the bike,....and may spend less time looking,.....and therefore less time fixing,.......but not always the case for sure.

BTW, I don't take the seat off to get the battery out.
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Re: Bike engine slowly dies at around 70 MPH
Reply #10 - 08/05/11 at 05:40:20
 
no govener
rev limiter yes
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Re: Bike engine slowly dies at around 70 MPH
Reply #11 - 08/05/11 at 05:59:27
 
I agree that some dealers have good techs, but the rookie is likely gonna work on your bike. I had a "kid" screw my bike up doing the clutch. Ended up needing a new head. (long story) When it went back to them to re-fix, who do you suppose they have do it? Ya, the new kid. Same one that screwed up in the 1st place. And ya, he screwed it up again. My bike was in the shop a total of about 4 months, two summers ago. I have since found a reputable mechanic, and the old place is now out of business. You just never know. My bike knows. It will never be the same as it once was.
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Re: Bike engine slowly dies at around 70 MPH
Reply #12 - 08/05/11 at 07:54:01
 
I was that new kid once, working at dealerships, (cars not bikes) and when I didn't know something, there was always a guy nearby that did, and I wasn't shy about asking questions. I would like to think that that still happens today.

Not that long ago yet, I went to work at a (dealership) "Walker Mower" mechanic, kind of a specialized trade......in my semi retirement. The only other tech there thought I was out to take his job,.....wouldn't tell me squat ! I was not doing well,...taking too much time figuring stuff out on my own.
Till one day we had a serious needed talk,....I convinced him I was just abiding time,....not wanting his job. From then on, he showed me all the quick tricks,......and the mowers got fixed fast, and right, and  on time. Wink
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Reply #13 - 08/05/11 at 09:46:48
 
thumperclone wrote on 08/05/11 at 05:40:20:
no govener
rev limiter yes

No,... neither...
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Reply #14 - 08/06/11 at 02:14:52
 
so the plan now is to have them change my tires and breaks as before but I guess I'll try to change the vacuum line myself, hope that works out for me....any suggestions?
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