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stinger Serious Thumper Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 848	helmet laws 07/05/11 at 00:35:16 Kinda puts a dent in their cause for sure! http://www.katu.com/news/national/124978164.html
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: helmet laws Reply #1 - 07/05/11 at 06:56:42 No, it doesnt..
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Reply #2 - 07/05/11 at 09:31:11

There should be varied insurance rates or group riders according to gear worn. No Helmet or gear pays a higher premium. Why charge ATGATT the same as peeps who prefer to have their locks blowin' in the wind and arms tanned and leathery? It doesn't make sense. Just like various bikes have different premiums, why not gear? If you're in an accident wearing jeans and a leather vest and have some serious boo boos due to a lack of armor and Helmet, why should the rest of us foot the bill?

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Z Full Member Offline Ride Baby Ride!!! Posts: 144 Northwestern PA Gender:	Re: helmet laws Reply #3 - 07/05/11 at 13:25:46 How do you prove that you wear the gear? Anybody can say "yes I wear ATGATT" in order to get the lower rates but how would an insurance company prove that they really do? Maybe if they were in an accident and not wearing the gear but other than that how would they do it?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: helmet laws Reply #4 - 07/05/11 at 16:30:23 Maybe if they were in an accident and not wearing the gear but other than that how would they do it? You answer the question Do You wear ATTGATT??? "YES" to get the discount & then get hurt NOT wearing ATTGATTm,,, your insurance doesnt cover your injuries,, simple..
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Driller Full Member Offline Really "Zooked" up Posts: 140 Tryon, NC Gender:	Re: helmet laws Reply #5 - 07/05/11 at 16:52:17 Sort of like they say in the military..."line of duty-yes or line of duty-no"
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Midnightrider Serious Thumper Offline Alliance Member Posts: 3244 Winston Salem, NC	Re: helmet laws Reply #6 - 07/05/11 at 17:47:10 I wouldnt worry about cost. If you go down without a helmet on over 35mph youre dead unless you've got a gold horse shoe up your a$$. Its a lot cheaper to bury someone than repair someone all broken up.
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Reply #7 - 07/05/11 at 20:02:08

Be careful on adding insurance premiums (taxes) to someone who you consider is engaging in risky behavior. My motorcycle premium is very low and I'm sure that yours is as well, but motorcycling is a very dangerous sport - proper gear or not. The same arguement that you may use for outrageously increased premiums for not "gearing up properly" is the same arguement that someone else may use for riding a motorcycle period - and they would be right.

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Midnightrider Serious Thumper Offline Alliance Member Posts: 3244 Winston Salem, NC	Re: helmet laws Reply #8 - 07/05/11 at 20:38:58 Years ago the owner of Ruger firearms refused to provide health insurance to the employees who rode motorcycles. Of course it was taken to court and Ruger lost, but thats what can happen when you ask for more laws.
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Reply #9 - 07/06/11 at 01:01:23

Whether it's a law or not it, wearing a helmet is a good idea. Riding thru the midwest I decided for the very first time to ride without a helmet. My head got cooked and my face was sand blasted with gravel. 5 minutes after I put my helmet back on I had a bird explode on my helmet right above my visor at 65 mph. Another time someone lobbed a beer can out of a car a 100 yds in front of me on the freeway and it bounced up and smacked my visor. No helmet and I am sure I would have went down at a very high speed. If you choose not to wear one, good luck with that!

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Reply #10 - 07/06/11 at 09:46:00

stinger wrote on 07/06/11 at 01:01:23:

Whether it's a law or not it, wearing a helmet is a good idea. Riding thru the midwest I decided for the very first time to ride without a helmet. My head got cooked and my face was sand blasted with gravel. 5 minutes after I put my helmet back on I had a bird explode on my helmet right above my visor at 65 mph. Another time someone lobbed a beer can out of a car a 100 yds in front of me on the freeway and it bounced up and smacked my visor. No helmet and I am sure I would have went down at a very high speed. If you choose not to wear one, good luck with that!

Agreed, its a good idea & I wear one,, but its NOT okay that someone would be forced to wear a helmet,,

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Reply #11 - 07/06/11 at 14:16:07

You can't fix stupid, but sometimes you can legislate against it.

Having personally stress tested two helmets (one each bicycle and motorcycle) I can testify to their effectiveness.

The Hurt report came up with the rather conclusive finding on helmets:
Every helmeted rider fatality also suffered non-head related fatal injuries. Most non-helmeted rider fatalities only serious injury was head related.

Don't let the junk "science", cooked statistics and double-talk interpretations of the Constitution presented by the pro-brain damage faction cause you to qualify for a Darwin award!

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ALfromN.H. FSO Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Dragon Slayer Posts: 1421 Rochester, New Hampshire Gender:	Re: helmet laws Reply #12 - 07/06/11 at 15:05:16 Helmets are optional here in NH but I wear one all the time. I don't care what other people do. Same with seat belts. Not required here but I use them. If the next guy doesn't want to, thats his decision. AL
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Reply #13 - 07/06/11 at 15:16:16

ALfromN.H. FSO wrote on 07/06/11 at 15:05:16:

Helmets are optional here in NH but I wear one all the time. I don't care what other people do. Same with seat belts. Not required here but I use them. If the next guy doesn't want to, thats his decision.

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joscswny YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 44 Rochester, NH Gender:	Re: helmet laws Reply #14 - 07/08/11 at 05:39:39 I'm with Al and Justin on this one.
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