Interesting here in Moses Lake, WA Conoco is selling fuel w/o ethanol in it. It is competitively priced and seems to have resolved an intermittent fuel starvation symptom I had on the sidecar rig. Max

We just got our statewide "public notice" in the paper that E15 gas has been approved for distribution in NC and the full NC distribution plan has been approved as well.

The plan includes warnings on the pump that you can't use the stuff in a two stroke or lawnmower engine.

The plan DOES NOT include requiring that 100% gas be available or that E10 be still available at every station for lawnmowers and two stroke engines.  

(Apparently WalMart will be selling lawnmower gas in throw away containers pretty soon in NC just like they do the Coleman fuel for lanterns and stoves.)

I expect that widespread E15 use will show up even more little problems with the Savage fuel system, including the fact the stock vac petcock won't flow enough liquid fuel to keep you going at full speed without some starvation effects due to the still yet lower energy content of the E15 fuel.  

Plus the newspaper mentioned E15 attacking older forms of rubber seals and hoses .....   great, huh.

Any car that is 2007 or newer is supposed to be able to use the stuff with no issues.

To deal with E15 we may be talking Raptor and a paper filter as a bare minimum, but we may also be talking some rejetting as well as this stuff is gonna burn "leaner" at the same stock flow rates when you run it at full speeds.   Less hydrocarbon molecules per given volume you know.

E15 or E85, which are they gonna call it in your state?

I call it more trouble on the way ....

Here, they add MTBE's half the year... it was supposed to keep the air clean... turns out,.. it leaches into the water supply...
Oh yeah,... great!...

Smells funny too......

Racine, WI here. Being between Milwaukee and Chicago, we have been on a steady diet of ethenol laced gas for the last 10-15 years. It's all my bike has ever seen. Except for when I road trip west, away from the big lake. Some places there still have pure gas, and I, too, have noticed increased mileage when using it. It sucks, but it's never going away, for pollution reasons, being where I am.

Wow, our E10 is actually 89 octane and improves gas mileage.  I've tested it in both the Savage, and my VFR800.  We also have E85, but not for widespread distribution.  Our 87 and 91 octane gas does not contain ethanol.  This is interesting as we are one of the states with a major commitment to ethanol production.

Been running corn for over 4 yrs in everything, including,.....
car, Toyota truck, 454 Motohhome, 4stroke outboard, Kawi Mule, S-40, a 4 stroke big tiller, a 2 stroke little tiller, and a 4 stroke lawn mower.
Not one problem ever,......except dirt plugging a carb jet,......before me looking into the tank to see grass and leaves floating around !
Ethanol is just something government related for all you whiners to blame any little fuel problem on to, when the blame really lies w/ your poor maintainence, dirty fuel, and lack of fuel filters.

I ran a thread not long ago,....not a one of you whiners out there could come up w/ even one pc of hardcore evidence of any problem cause by Ethanol fuel.

Now, ya all quit you're whine'n, and go find the real cause of you're problems !

Not just something to whine about, I can't say it has or has not made anything run any better or any worse.

But it IS a case of the government APPROVING that the fuel companies can now add 5% more junk/useless material/filler into a gallon of gas, which means they are now "givin' the nod" to big oil to charge you the same amount of money for a gallon of something that in not 100% gas.......so your 3.50 cents is now paying for 5% less gas.
It is giving big oil the get outta jail free card for selling 85% of the product at 100% of the price.
So the price of gas will "go down" to the clueless, when really-its going up.
Stop using it if you don't like it, you say?   C'mon, ......really?
Government endorsement is the only thing that is keeping this from being criminal  .
Remember "It's not wrong if we say it 'aint!!"

I for one like the idea of making all stuff run on ethanol, or seawater.

Just have a hard time swallowing the "fleecing" pill.....

God bless you each one.

Farmer

VAFarmer wrote on 07/01/11 at 11:07:28:



& Bless your Pea Pickin HEART!