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Anyone seen a modern bike w inverted clutch/ brake
06/23/11 at 17:09:09

I was near Dandridge, TN all week and got a hall pass from the better 1/2 to check out the Smoky Mtn Motorcycle Museum. Its new but somebody told me about it.

The owner was cool and let me take pics. I was looking for ideas Wink

No idea how these pics will look posted, I shot, edited, ftp'd all from droid phone.

There was a Swiss bike from '49 that had crazy reversed/inverted clutch amd brake. I started thinking how wild would these look with Skeebo's fork mounted mirrors?

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skeebo Senior Member Offline Ride It Like U Stole It........ Posts: 328 Fresno, Cali Gender:	Re: Anyone seen a modern bike w inverted clutch/ b Reply #1 - 06/23/11 at 17:34:07 Thanks a lot SoE !!....there go my ideas outrunnin my wallet again !
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skeebo Senior Member Offline Ride It Like U Stole It........ Posts: 328 Fresno, Cali Gender:	Re: Anyone seen a modern bike w inverted clutch/ b Reply #2 - 06/23/11 at 17:43:20 This one keeps me up at Night
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Re: Anyone seen a modern bike w inverted clutch/ b
Reply #3 - 06/23/11 at 18:14:58

You can buy bikes with that set up from the factory. Chang Jiang, a Chinese knock off of a Russian knock off of a WW2 BMW. The Chinese levers are cheap pot metal. Look through back issues of The Horse, someone used American machined versions on his nose cone Shovelhead rigid. I have the issue packed up somewhere, I'll see if i can find it.

Fab Kevin (advertises in The Horse, or google him) can probably whip a set up for you. Wouldn't be cheap, but would be high quality (he likes stainless steel).

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bluesavage218 Full Member Alliance Member Offline Chicks dig it. Posts: 204 Jackson, TN Gender:	Re: Anyone seen a modern bike w inverted clutch/ b Reply #4 - 06/24/11 at 09:48:14 Skeebo that one is sick!!!!
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skeebo Senior Member Offline Ride It Like U Stole It........ Posts: 328 Fresno, Cali Gender:	Re: Anyone seen a modern bike w inverted clutch/ b Reply #5 - 06/24/11 at 10:57:40 bluesavage218 wrote on 06/24/11 at 09:48:14: Skeebo that one is sick!!!! Falcon builds rollin Art......I luv the stance
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bluesavage218 Full Member Alliance Member Offline Chicks dig it. Posts: 204 Jackson, TN Gender:	Re: Anyone seen a modern bike w inverted clutch/ b Reply #6 - 06/24/11 at 11:09:11 That's actually similar to what I have in mind for my next bike. Definitely low to the ground look. I want the front and rear tire same size (maybe even exactly the same) I'm thinking a little more sporty and not so old school, but I absolutely love that bike.
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MotoBuddha Serious Thumper Offline Let's roll! Posts: 1416 Charlotte, NC	Re: Anyone seen a modern bike w inverted clutch/ b Reply #7 - 06/24/11 at 11:15:49 It would be much easier with a front brake that didn't require a master cylinder. But there was someYamaha -- from the '80s, I think -- that used a remote master cylinder mounted to the triple tree with a short cable to lever. There are probably other instances out there of similar setups.
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Reply #8 - 06/24/11 at 11:41:11

MotoBuddha wrote on 06/24/11 at 11:15:49:

It would be much easier with a front brake that didn't require a master cylinder. But there was someYamaha -- from the '80s, I think -- that used a remote master cylinder mounted to the triple tree with a short cable to lever. There are probably other instances out there of similar setups.

Ya..bikes with rear disc brakes use a remote cylinder activated by linkage or cable.

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Reply #9 - 06/24/11 at 12:54:09

If I understood the question your talking about bikes that had a left side brake and a right side shift, like many Brit and European bikes of the 1950-1960's.
It took a while for the industry to get on the same page, and a lot of people were hurt in the mean time. Think about the guy who grew up riding a Jap bike and then bought a Brit bike. When the emergency stop comes up and your foot goes down you don't want the brake lever to go "click!"

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Reply #10 - 06/24/11 at 14:06:48

JohnBoy wrote on 06/24/11 at 12:54:09:

If I understood the question your talking about bikes that had a left side brake and a right side shift, like many Brit and European bikes of the 1950-1960's.
It took a while for the industry to get on the same page, and a lot of people were hurt in the mean time. Think about the guy who grew up riding a Jap bike and then bought a Brit bike. When the emergency stop comes up and your foot goes down you don't want the brake lever to go "click!"

Ya...Not Good....
SoE was wondering about inverting the clutch/brake levers, what would you do with the front brake master cylinder?

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Re: Anyone seen a modern bike w inverted clutch/ b
Reply #11 - 06/25/11 at 10:08:15

Run a twin leading shoe drum brake hub from a 60s or 70s metric with the same axle size. Or ones that bronze flange bushings from Lowes/Home Depot fit into to make up the difference.

I have a GT750 wheel here at the house. 3 or 4 big washers per side and it fits Savage forks. Looks great, but brake levers that clear the stock starter button box are getting hard to find. HD stuff flat out doesn't fit, looks like crap if you go newer than late 1940s, and you'd need to retrofit the clutch side too. 1" Triumph stuff fits great, but all I can usually find is the clutch side.

I'm going to use it on the Honda cafe/track mutt bike.

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skeebo Senior Member Offline Ride It Like U Stole It........ Posts: 328 Fresno, Cali Gender:	Re: Anyone seen a modern bike w inverted clutch/ b Reply #12 - 06/25/11 at 12:26:38 What about relocating the switches/housings, there are some cool pieces for cycles, cars, etc.
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WD Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Professional "scooter trash". Posts: 5207 Rosemark TN Gender:	Re: Anyone seen a modern bike w inverted clutch/ b Reply #13 - 06/25/11 at 17:21:28 I'd rather use the nice (drum) wheel on an antique... This antique... My stock Savage front disc set-up finally works correctly so until it goes T.U. again, I'll leave it be.
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Reply #14 - 06/25/11 at 19:25:21

WD wrote on 06/25/11 at 17:21:28:

I'd rather use the nice (drum) wheel on an antique... This antique...
http://ravenscroftart.net/jowens/Tracker.jpg
http://ravenscroftart.net/jowens/Tracker2.jpg

My stock Savage front disc set-up finally works correctly so until it goes T.U. again, I'll leave it be.

Ya, A drum would would blend right in with the overall theme.
A little background on the antique please....cool.

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