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Re: transmission problem
Reply #30 - 06/10/11 at 05:08:16

OK clever people ....

Splined bushings exist -- somebody figure out what spline we have on our bikes and locate a splined bushing. Then we can collect worn out pulleys and get somebody to lathe them out and press then tack weld in a new center bushing (made of real steel no less).

Why?

Have you priced that small pulley lately?

$83 plus shipping !!!

.... and it will wear out again !!

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serenity3743 Serious Thumper Offline Striving to better, oft we mar what's well Posts: 778 Black Mountain, NC Gender:	Re: transmission problem Reply #31 - 06/10/11 at 05:22:17 I found a good one on eBay for $40 including shipping. I will try to salvage the old one for you to tinker with, Oldfeller.
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Reply #32 - 06/13/11 at 08:50:20

Here's what I did to get the nut off the shaft: With pulley and belt in place, I tightened the belt very tight to put binding pressure of the pulley upon the shaft. Then to keep the rear wheel from turning, I tightened the rear brake cable extremely tight as well. This immobilized the wheel and the shaft enough that I was able to loosen the nut.

Okay, this is my first time posting pictures. Sorry they're so huge, but I wanted to show what I found when I got the pulley off the shaft. The pulley splines are completely gone. The shaft splines are damaged but I think they will have enough grip left.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: transmission problem Reply #33 - 06/13/11 at 08:56:00 yukk,,
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: transmission problem Reply #34 - 06/13/11 at 09:02:23 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/13/11 at 08:56:00: yukk,, double yukk!
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Boofer Serious Thumper Offline Nearly too old. Posts: 1760 N Ms Gender:	Re: transmission problem Reply #35 - 06/13/11 at 09:33:02 Serenity, there are many options between closed throttle and wide open throttle. You should give them a try.
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Reply #36 - 06/13/11 at 10:29:16

Boofer wrote on 06/13/11 at 09:33:02:

Serenity, there are many options between closed throttle and wide open throttle. You should give them a try. Grin

Well, Boofer, believe it or not, I'm not a "wicker" as Oldfeller calls it. This was a problem that developed over a LONG period of time. Started maybe 2005 or 2006 (before I did an engine swap) when I had the "loose pulley nut" problem, tracked it down with help of a mechanic's free advice. But the pulley had already started to gradually wear some of the splines, and finally the last one musta sheared off a couple weeks ago. I think I shoulda replaced the pulley when I swapped the engine out. Embarrassed

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Reply #37 - 06/13/11 at 10:30:06

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 06/10/11 at 05:08:16:

OK clever people ....

Splined bushings exist -- somebody figure out what spline we have on our bikes and locate a splined bushing. Then we can collect worn out pulleys and get somebody to lathe them out and press then tack weld in a new center bushing (made of real steel no less).

Why?

Have you priced that small pulley lately?

$83 plus shipping !!!

.... and it will wear out again !!

Oldfeller, do you want to tinker with the old pulley?

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babyhog Serious Thumper Offline Find a Cure for Breast Cancer! NOW!! Posts: 3802 WV Gender:	Re: transmission problem Reply #38 - 06/13/11 at 11:26:38 Well, I must say I've seen better looking shafts than that... best of luck to you! (sorry, couldn't resist) But seriously, what do you do next?
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: transmission problem Reply #39 - 06/13/11 at 11:43:55 What oil was you using?
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Reply #41 - 06/13/11 at 13:45:14

bill67 wrote on 06/13/11 at 11:43:55:

What oil was you using?

I have been back and forth with oils: Suzuki brand both dino and synthetic, and also the diesel oil that Oldfeller likes (I forget the name). I would not classify this as an oil issue however, because it is the external part of the shaft where the front pulley attaches. It was a wear problem from some time ago. (See my reply to Boofer above)

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Reply #42 - 06/13/11 at 13:49:01

babyhog wrote on 06/13/11 at 11:26:38:

Well, I must say I've seen better looking shafts than that... best of luck to you! Grin

(sorry, couldn't resist)

But seriously, what do you do next?

Babyhog, evidently I didn't offend you with my earlier post, and I'm very glad of that!! Thanks for having a good sense of humor!

Seriously, I'm hoping that there is enough of the spline on the shaft to work with a new/used pulley. If not, I might get the splines built up with a welder, but I really REALLY hope I don't have to do that.

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Re: transmission problem
Reply #43 - 06/13/11 at 16:42:17

serenity3743 wrote on 06/13/11 at 13:49:01:

babyhog wrote on 06/13/11 at 11:26:38:

Well, I must say I've seen better looking shafts than that... best of luck to you! Grin

(sorry, couldn't resist)

But seriously, what do you do next?

Babyhog, evidently I didn't offend you with my earlier post, and I'm very glad of that!! Thanks for having a good sense of humor!

Seriously, I'm hoping that there is enough of the spline on the shaft to work with a new/used pulley. If not, I might get the splines built up with a welder, but I really REALLY hope I don't have to do that.

That doesn't sound much fun at all. I hope the new/used one works for you. I know so little, but it looks pretty serious to me, so I'm sending my best wishes... Be sure to keep us posted... although, I have avoided saying this... you haven't been around much... that is UNTIL you have a big problem. haha (Of course you know I'm teasing, right)

And offend me?? HAHA Tough to do, 'specially since I started it! Wink

I was glad I didn't offend you!

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Re: transmission problem
Reply #44 - 06/13/11 at 16:52:39

serenity3743 wrote on 06/13/11 at 13:45:14:

bill67 wrote on 06/13/11 at 11:43:55:

What oil was you using?

I have been back and forth with oils: Suzuki brand both dino and synthetic, and also the diesel oil that Oldfeller likes (I forget the name). I would not classify this as an oil issue however, because it is the external part of the shaft where the front pulley attaches. It was a wear problem from some time ago. (See my reply to Boofer above)

I know that had nothing to do with engine oil.I just wanted to wake up Oldfeller.

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