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Reply #3060 - 05/19/12 at 09:28:52
 
Have we seen Romney's birth records?..  

He walks kinda' French...  Huh...

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Reply #3061 - 05/20/12 at 02:37:18
 
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Reply #3062 - 05/20/12 at 08:17:56
 
I think we are the puppets.
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Reply #3063 - 05/20/12 at 08:50:17
 
bill67 wrote on 05/20/12 at 08:17:56:
I think we are the puppets.


we are sir, just don't tell anyone. Remember Jack Nicholson in Easy Rider?

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Reply #3064 - 05/20/12 at 17:33:07
 
interesting.......someone else did the work the MSM should have done 4-5 years ago.


Barack Obama's biographical brief edited repeatedly over 17 years, but Kenyan birthplace changed just weeks after his presidential run announced
 
The biography provided by Barack Obama to his literary agent specified his birthplace as "Kenya". And, over the course of 17 years, despite multiple revisions by Obama, the Kenyan birthplace remained a fundamental part of the bio on the agent's website.

I've used the Wayback Archive to explore the exact transformations of Obama's biography on his agent's site (click on any of the thumbnails to zoom to a readable size).


On June 27, 1998, the website read: "BARACK OBAMA was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review. He was born in Kenya to an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, and was raised in Indonesia, Hawaii, and Chicago. His first book is DREAMS FROM MY FATHER: A STORY OF RACE AND INHERITANCE."

The Obama entry remained unmodified (e.g., June 6, 2002) until sometime around December 9, 2004, when it was modified to read: "BARACK OBAMA is the junior Democratic senator from Illinois, and was the dynamic keynote speaker at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. He was also the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review. He was born in Kenya to an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, and was raised in Indonesia, Hawaii, and Chicago. His first book, DREAMS FROM MY FATHER: A STORY OF RACE AND INHERITANCE, is a New York Times bestseller."

On February 10, 2007, Senator Barack Obama formally announced his candidacy for the Presidency.


On April 3, 2007, the website read: "BARACK OBAMA is the junior Democratic senator from Illinois and was the dynamic keynote speaker at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. He was also the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review. He was born in Kenya to an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister and was raised in Indonesia, Hawaii, and Chicago. His first book, DREAMS FROM MY FATHER: A STORY OF RACE AND INHERITANCE, has been a long time New York Times bestseller."

Sometime between April 3rd and April 21st, a member of the Obama campaign staff (or Obama himself) noticed the discrepancy in birthplace that would presumably disqualify the Senator from office.

On April 21, 2007, the website read: "BARACK OBAMA is the junior Democratic senator from Illinois and was the dynamic keynote speaker at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. He was also the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review. He was born in Hawaii to an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister and was raised in Indonesia, Hawaii, and Chicago. His first book, DREAMS FROM MY FATHER: A STORY OF RACE AND INHERITANCE, has been a long time New York Times bestseller."


On June 14, 2007, the website read: "BARACK OBAMA, the junior Democratic senator from Illinois, is currently campaigning to become the 2008 Democratic presidential nominee. He was born in Hawaii to a father who was raised in a small village in Kenya and a mother who grew up in small-town Kansas. Barack's father eventually returned to Kenya, and Barack grew up with his mother in Hawaii, and for a few years in Indonesia. Later, he moved to New York, where he graduated from Columbia University before moving to Chicago, where he became a community organizer. He went on to earn his law degree from Harvard, where he became the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review. His first book, DREAMS FROM MY FATHER: A STORY OF RACE AND INHERITANCE, has been a long-time New York Times bestseller."

Old media's feeble handling of this issue -- parroting the laughable assertion that clerical errors caused Obama's birthplace to be incorrectly listed, when former clients and the agency's policy itself states that authors provide the biographical briefs -- is pathetic.

As I've demonstrated here, Obama's bio was carefully edited over the course of 17 years to reflect his various accomplishments.

It was only a few months after his presidential candidacy was announced that his Kenyan "birthplace" became Hawaiian to confirm his eligibility for office. Obama remains a client to this day, which helps explain the literary agent's willingness to instantly offer an explanation for the discrepancy.
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Reply #3065 - 05/20/12 at 18:03:54
 
So,.. are you saying that you think he was actually born in Kenya?...
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Reply #3066 - 05/20/12 at 19:18:59
 
Webster, a conspiracy theory is a belief which explains an event as the result of a secret plot by exceptionally powerful and cunning conspirators to achieve a malevolent end, implying a paranoid tendency to see the influence of some malign covert agency in events.

Conspiracism is a particular narrative form of scapegoating that frames demonized enemies as part of a vast insidious plot against the common good, while it valorizes the scapegoater as a hero for sounding the alarm".

Having defined what a "conspiracy theory" is, both you and the informational sources of 'fact' you cite concerning Obama's birth place as Kenya are simply not true. These alligations have been proven to be total nonsense time and time again. It is a total waste of time and effort to continually bring this dead horse back into political discussion.

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Reply #3067 - 05/20/12 at 21:07:44
 
So,.. are you saying that you think he was actually born in Kenya?...

No, don't think so. i think he was most likely born in Hawaii.

However, one thing seems clear which is it's likely he knew the bio said born in Kenya and he felt it gave him advantages. Wasn't an executive at Google or Yahoo just booted for saying he had two degrees when in fact he actually only had one? What do you do with a President who lies like that?

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Reply #3068 - 05/20/12 at 21:18:57
 
star, this is personal attack, stop, desist.

Vers; I realize you have to do your job and moderate, but don't feel the need to do it on my part. I'm against censorship.

But, reading Star's stuff is kinda funny sometimes.

For example, take Star's post trying to explain to me what a conspiracy theory is. Copy and paste it into your browser and see what comes up.....

He often cuts and paste stuff into his post to make it seem like he wrote it. i post what others write but split it apart and put it in quotes or say who / where the source was. When you say "Webster, ... and then paste what someone else wrote, you are purposely trying to deceive someone.

Hey, now I know why he's such an obama fan! They have something in common! Pres Hopey-change wanted to be a real African-American so he made up a phrase and stuck it in the middle of a sentence.

Hey Star; let's see your resume. Does it say brain surgeon, PhD in Physics. Let me guess, you co-wrote a book with Steven Hawkins?...
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Reply #3069 - 05/20/12 at 23:12:04
 
FWIW, I think Obama was born in Kenya.

His Bio said he was & it was in print for 16 years,

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Reply #3070 - 05/21/12 at 00:23:27
 
Looks like I'm getting banned folks, so before the shoe drops I just want to say it's been fun, and no hard feelings. Ride safe and keep the shinny side up.

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Reply #3071 - 05/21/12 at 05:16:49
 
oh stop being a baby star, no one's banning you except yourself. You got busted twice in a span of a few minutes, heck Buckner let a ball go thru his legs and he came back the next day.

JOG; if it turns out that is true, that would be one of the biggest stories of all time....

There would be a quick impeachment by the House, the Senate trial would be presided over by Roberts and they would have to convict, but it would be interesting to see how many democratic senators voted no.

I can’t believe anyone, including hopey-change, would try to pull off running for President if born overseas. On the other hand, he’s made unbelievable statements that show he either simply doesn’t know the Constitution or he feels like he really is a sort of Messiah and he knows best.
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Reply #3072 - 05/21/12 at 12:05:29
 

JOG; if it turns out that is true, that would be one of the biggest stories of all time...



You mean, if it becomes accepted as true. Its true the Federal REserve has been used to suck the worth of our dollar out of the pockets of the people & our wealth has been transferred to the elite thru it,Henry Ford stated that if the people Understood the system, there would be a revolt..
But, few believe it, in spite of the truth of it.,
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Reply #3073 - 05/21/12 at 13:33:28
 
Does anyone know for sure were George Washington was born,I never did see is birth certificate.
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Reply #3074 - 05/21/12 at 16:33:34
 
It doesn't mean a pinch of sh!t where he is from at this point. He was elected end of story.

A lot of people put too much thought in a president. Your state and local officials affect our day to day lives.

Doesn't really matter. It's a sinking ship anyway
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