Yeah, but I love to dig on the "HD experts", you know, buy a brand new garbage barge (Geezer Glide, er, Electroglide) and think that HD invented motorcycles and everything about them.
Indian had electric start option same year Cadillac made it standard (1916). HD got electric start in 1965 (and it still isn't worth 2 cents, even with Toyota/Mazda starters).
I like real Harleys (pre-49 Big Twins) that aren't treated like fine art. I like real riders who treat their bikes as basic transportation. My friend Drifter Doug even does all his shopping, in winter snow no less, on his 99 1500 Drifter.
Triumph invented the oil leak, I've had a few Bonnies.