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Weird idea, probably wouldn't work.
03/27/11 at 10:15:34

This idea just hit me while reading the "Ditch the airbox" thread.

Now I'm just spit balling here since I don't even have a bike at the moment to test this on but here goes.

What do you think would happen if someone got rid of the airbox, put on a pod filter, and installed a fan similar to a computer fan between the filter and carb and wired it to a switch or something. Would that pretty much give it a poor man's turbo?

Like I said, just spit balling, thinking outloud, or what have you.

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chickenwingsmmm YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 17	Re: Weird idea, probably wouldn't work. Reply #1 - 03/27/11 at 10:22:28 In my newest issue of hotrod mag they routed the air from 2 leaf blowers into the intake of a corvette and made some noticeable hp gains. I think this idea would all depend on how well you directed and kept the airflow going down the intake.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Weird idea, probably wouldn't work. Reply #2 - 03/27/11 at 10:24:16 650 cc X 2,000 = air flow thru the carb at 2,000 rpm. Gonna need some Honkin Wind to fill that fat jug up at RPM..
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Chopped Senior Member Offline Hurts Like hell when you shoot yourself! Posts: 499 Stafford, VA Gender:	Re: Weird idea, probably wouldn't work. Reply #3 - 03/27/11 at 10:33:37 hell just put a turbo on it!
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Yonuh Adisi FSO Serious Thumper Offline Savage Jedi (Knight) Posts: 3622 Pilot Valley NV, aka Tatooine Gender:	Re: Weird idea, probably wouldn't work. Reply #4 - 03/27/11 at 10:42:41 Like I said, was just curious as too what ya'll think would happen. If I still had the FireLizard, I would test it out myself and report back, but I don't have any kind of bike at the moment so it is basically just "I wonder what would happen if..." Besides, actual turbos are pricey.
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MotoBuddha Serious Thumper Offline Let's roll! Posts: 1416 Charlotte, NC	Re: Weird idea, probably wouldn't work. Reply #5 - 03/27/11 at 10:51:36 The problem is accurately metering the air-fuel mixture between boosted and unboosted.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Weird idea, probably wouldn't work. Reply #6 - 03/27/11 at 11:08:26 Don't think those little fans blow much air... now a leaf blower... Hmmm... how many volts do you get from the alternator before it gets regulated again?
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ralfyguy Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 932	Re: Weird idea, probably wouldn't work. Reply #7 - 03/27/11 at 11:16:54 Isn't it primarily about the increase of Oxygen?
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thumperclone Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline PGR rider riding with respect Posts: 6058 Grand Junction Colorado Gender:	Re: Weird idea, probably wouldn't work. Reply #8 - 03/27/11 at 11:19:22 theres a hair dryer lookin 12v blower out there may be good for 50cc engine..
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Reply #9 - 03/27/11 at 11:26:33

Yonuh Adisi FSO wrote on 03/27/11 at 10:15:34:

This idea just hit me while reading the "Ditch the airbox" thread.

Now I'm just spit balling here since I don't even have a bike at the moment to test this on but here goes.

What do you think would happen if someone got rid of the airbox, put on a pod filter, and installed a fan similar to a computer fan between the filter and carb and wired it to a switch or something. Would that pretty much give it a poor man's turbo?

Like I said, just spit balling, thinking outloud, or what have you.

would the computer fan calculate how much fuel you need Roll Eyes

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Weird idea, probably wouldn't work. Reply #10 - 03/27/11 at 11:33:22 thumperclone wrote on 03/27/11 at 11:19:22: theres a hair dryer lookin 12v blower out there may be good for 50cc engine.. Naw, hot air ain't good for performance. Need a chiller.
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ralfyguy Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 932	Re: Weird idea, probably wouldn't work. Reply #11 - 03/27/11 at 11:36:34 How about RAM air? Get a 1 1/2" PVC P-Trap and just use the "U"? Connect it with a two-clamp rubber drain adapter.
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Reply #12 - 03/27/11 at 12:00:48

ralfyguy wrote on 03/27/11 at 11:36:34:

How about RAM air? Get a 1 1/2" PVC P-Trap and just use the "U"? Connect it with a two-clamp rubber drain adapter.

I could point you to the tale of frustration and woe over on another board where the guy has been struggling for two years trying to get the homemade ram air on his ZRX to fuel properly. No matter how much he messed with the jets, he would be either to rich at the bottom or too lean on top.

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Reply #13 - 03/27/11 at 13:02:38

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/27/11 at 10:24:16:

650 cc X 2,000 = air flow thru the carb at 2,000 rpm.....

Make that 6000 rpm, one inhale per two rotations = 3000 rpm, times 652cc = 1956000 cc/minute. 1 cu/ft = 28300cc. At 6000 rpm we are inhaling 69 cfm.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811999612
A $15 12v 80mm fan is puffing 84 cfm. You will have positive pressure and will have some boost.

I have a lot of space over the airbox. Hmmmm.....

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Paladin. Serious Thumper Offline Hamster Posts: 4929 Sunny Southern California Gender:	Re: Weird idea, probably wouldn't work. Reply #14 - 03/27/11 at 13:05:13 MotoBuddha wrote on 03/27/11 at 12:00:48: ... guy has been struggling.... No matter how much he messed with the jets, he would be either to rich at the bottom or too lean on top. Maybe. But Lancer could get the jets right.
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