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Flames from muffler
03/21/11 at 09:36:34

04 savage 7400 miles

I recently put on a harley take off muffler from a softail and pops and backfires stopped. I have stock air filter and carb. As I came home last night, hit the highway 10 miles and once on the sideroads when I let off the throttle blue flames were constantly coming out lighting up the back of the bike. Once parked, looking into the end of muff it was glowing red. This can't be normal, I need to know what I need to do...

I do have on hand a K&N air filter, lancers jet set and dynokit with needle.

Before I changed mufflers, it would pop on decel here and there and maybe a shutdown poof. Thanks for any help!

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Re: Flames from muffler
Reply #1 - 03/21/11 at 09:42:44

I also just swapped out for a Softail muffler and also have the glowing red! Haven't noticed any flames shooting, but I haven't ridden at night since changing. Hope you get some answers...

Serowbot asked me if it was a catalytic model, thinking that may explain the difference, but I don't believe mine is. So I still don't know the answer. The part number on mine is 65842-07. What's yours?

My bike is '06 with about 7000 miles. Stock filter and carb too.

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Re: Flames from muffler
Reply #2 - 03/21/11 at 10:16:26

Well there's good news and bad news.

Here's the good news.
No air leaks, great installation!
No shift or shutdown pops
grumble (decel) pops don't count

Bad news
tailpipe glows red
flames out the tail pipe, hey! wait a minute, that's just FN cool. where do I get one? Cool

probable cause, a tad rich in the idle mixture maybe. Are you still getting a shutdown poof? lean it up till you get a pow, then slightly richer.

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Chopped Senior Member Offline Hurts Like hell when you shoot yourself! Posts: 499 Stafford, VA Gender:	Re: Flames from muffler Reply #3 - 03/21/11 at 10:26:40 I agree.... Fning AWESOME! I happen to like the flames mine shoot out!
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marine5317 Full Member Alliance Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 181 Lecanto,FL Gender:	Re: Flames from muffler Reply #4 - 03/21/11 at 16:19:26 I started riding Harleys in 1953 and stayed with them until 1970. Back then we would twist the left grip c/c to retatd the spark and snap the throttle shut just to get the 12ga. shot-gun sound and flames out of the mufflers. We always burned Amaco white gas (unleaded) back then. Be happy, you got pop and flames! Ride Safe Marine5317
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Paladin. Serious Thumper Offline Hamster Posts: 4929 Sunny Southern California Gender:	Re: Flames from muffler Reply #5 - 03/21/11 at 22:13:55 Wife followed me about 20 miles on the freeway. Said I had flames when I backed off, along with the standard Savage pops and growls.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Flames from muffler Reply #6 - 03/21/11 at 22:43:10 Flames from muffler,, no real big deal... Flames from Carburetor,, Not okay,, not at all okay..
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28850 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Flames from muffler Reply #7 - 03/21/11 at 23:23:36 I just gotta' do a night video... view from the rear... FLAMES!... ...
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Chopped Senior Member Offline Hurts Like hell when you shoot yourself! Posts: 499 Stafford, VA Gender:	Re: Flames from muffler Reply #8 - 03/22/11 at 05:35:20 I WANNA SEE SAID VIDEO!!!!
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Demin Serious Thumper Offline We need more chlorine in the gene pool Posts: 2435 Warren,Ohio Gender:	Re: Flames from muffler Reply #9 - 03/22/11 at 15:43:39 I actually put a flamethrower kit on a Yamaha I built.It would throw 3 foot flames.The only bad thing was I mounted the button in between the risers.Push the button it kills engine and fires spark plug in the tailpipe...no problem.THEN let off button,back under power.Makes for a wild ride.....but it looked cool.
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marine5317 Full Member Alliance Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 181 Lecanto,FL Gender:	Re: Flames from muffler Reply #10 - 03/22/11 at 16:06:25 I know that looks good, but wern't you washing the oil film off the bore with raw gas coming in to a dead jug? Just wondering. Ride Safe Marine5317
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Demin Serious Thumper Offline We need more chlorine in the gene pool Posts: 2435 Warren,Ohio Gender:	Re: Flames from muffler Reply #11 - 03/22/11 at 16:14:50 Yeah.You don't want to do it alot at one time.Next one I do will have propane injection into the pipe.
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Re: Flames from muffler
Reply #12 - 03/22/11 at 16:21:03

babyhog wrote on 03/21/11 at 09:42:44:

I also just swapped out for a Softail muffler and also have the glowing red! Haven't noticed any flames shooting, but I haven't ridden at night since changing. Hope you get some answers...

Serowbot asked me if it was a catalytic model, thinking that may explain the difference, but I don't believe mine is. So I still don't know the answer. The part number on mine is 65842-07. What's yours?

My bike is '06 with about 7000 miles. Stock filter and carb too.

babyhog, you have the same muffler as mine. Also comes off of Night Trains. Easy install and looks good. It is listed in Serowbot's muffler guide. Mine has what Verslagen describes as the "Grumble Pops". I don't ride at night, but I may take a spin tonight to check for flames.

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Routy Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2280 Winston Oregon Gender:	Re: Flames from muffler Reply #13 - 03/22/11 at 16:57:31 Wow, I sure wish I was a kid again so I could get all excited about flames and stuff !
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04 Savage Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 77	Re: Flames from muffler Reply #14 - 03/22/11 at 17:13:43 No pops or shutdown poofs anymore with this harley muff, just decel growls and 6'' blue flames I was just concerned after turning off bike that the inside of muff was glowing red.
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