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Re: Blowing/popping fuses
Reply #15 - 03/04/11 at 07:43:03
 
Wink... great!...

...and no fire like mine did...
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Reply #16 - 03/04/11 at 19:01:09
 
verslagen1 wrote on 03/03/11 at 19:53:34:
I just gave you the full link, do you want me to erase it and wait for xmas?




Well, NOOO! Duhh, you can send it NOW & Ill treasure it always, Starting on Christmas,, dang, man, dont you know nuttin?
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Reply #17 - 03/04/11 at 19:26:02
 
verslagen1 wrote on 03/03/11 at 23:06:11:
Serowbot wrote on 03/03/11 at 22:16:24:
So, but why will the light go on when you find the short

Ok, so you plug in a 12v bulb into your fuse box, it lights up.  that bulb is made to handle 12v and the highest rated bulb on your bike is about 33 watts.  p=iv ohm's law.  33=i12, i=33/12 about 3 amps.  When the light is burning bright, you gotta short, when it's dim, normal.  to be continued
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and not be on otherwise?... if the short isn't happening, isn't the circuit normal?,... positive, to fuse/bulb, to ground, and bingo... light is on!

Why is the bulb dim? Ohm's law... v=ir, 12=i(resistance of the bulb plus whatever else is on the same line), from above 12=i(4+?)  Lets say it's a line to the lights in the speedo, so 12=i(4+8) assuming the wattage of the indicator lights is twice the resistance. i= 12/12, i=1 amp, the light will be half as bright.
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When the short is contacted,...positive goes straight to ground and fire ensues, wires burn, bad bad smells, and no more light...
... or,... if the bulb keeps the current at a safe value, preventing this,... why don't we use bulbs instead of fuses, and never have this problem in the first place...

You remember that anemic magic sh!t box?  darn thing shuts down at 10v.  That light bulb fuse will steal voltage from the CDI box you'll have a dead savage.




First, thank you for taking the time to open this bukkit O worms.


33 watts.  p=iv ohm's law.  33=i12, i=33/12 about 3 amps


I spent 9 months in Biloxi with people trying to teach me electronics & that has got to be the best danged " Get it thru to them" approach I ever saw. I ont hav Ohms law ingrained in my mind like that. All I know is E=IR, the various algebraic convolutions escape me.

The Power aspect of Ohms law always destroyed me. So thanks, I ALMOST appreciate it enough to let ya off the hook for the Majik Sh!tbox for Christmas.



Now, it seems to me that the fuse has no current flow thru it,, OHHHH, Waaait a Minnit! Th problem is, the fuse Blows.. why? OVERcurrent, Why overcurrent? A  short,, Oookay, now we ginin here.. So, if the light is bright, its due to greater current flow in the circuit than is "Normal".

Okay, so, I can prove I have a short.. HownaHEKK am I gonna Find that crummy little thing?
So, I Gurgled "How to find a short"

SHORT CIRCUITS

NOTE: Never use a self-powered test light to perform checks for opens or shorts when power is applied to the circuit under test. The test light can be damaged by outside power.

  1. Isolate the circuit from power and ground.
  2. Connect the self-powered test light or ohmmeter ground clip to a good ground and probe any easy-to-reach point in the circuit.
  3. If the light comes on or there is continuity, there is a short somewhere in the circuit.
  4. To isolate the short, probe a test point at either end of the isolated circuit (the light should be on or the meter should indicate continuity).
  5. Leave the test light probe engaged and sequentially open connectors or switches, remove parts, etc. until the light goes out or continuity is broken.
  6. When the light goes out, the short is between the last two circuit components which were opened.

Okay, Im pretty well done, hafta regroup,,


Vers, thankx
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Re: Blowing/popping fuses
Reply #18 - 03/04/11 at 19:40:41
 
The thing I hate about them self powered test lamps is the might tell you where the short is but if all the wires are connected together with one big short, ain't gonna do you much good.

When shorts are big enough to blow fuses, the insulation on the wires will be melted.  feel for that, a hot wire will feel like a snake.
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Reply #19 - 03/04/11 at 22:00:10
 
The thing I hate about them self powered test lamps is the might tell you where the short is but if all the wires are connected together with one big short, ain't gonna do you much good.



Hmmm,, that could be a hassle,, well POOT!,, Okay... I dont want it any more,,, Crappola,, & I was SO excited about the idea of having a Christmas present this year,,, ohhh, well, maybe one day,,,
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Re: Blowing/popping fuses
Reply #20 - 07/29/11 at 21:28:53
 
Paladin. wrote on 03/03/11 at 16:30:22:
Take one of those blown fuses and connect it with a light bulb.  When you find the short you will see the light!



Like this:

I made a tool to assist me in doing wiggle checks on suspect circuits.  I find that using this tool is easier and cheaper than blowing out lots of fuses as you search for shorts.

It is a license plate light fixture and wiring harness that I removed from an old pickup truck eighteen years ago when I was putting a rear bumper on it:





I cut off the OEM connector and crimped on some spade connectors to the ends of the two wires:





You can see where I filed down the spade connectors so that they would fit into the holder for the fuse.

I pull the fuse on the suspect circuit, plug my tester leads into the fuse holder, turn on the ignition switch, and wiggle away.  If I find a short to ground, the light gets really bright.

If you are testing the headlight/taillight circuit, you may want to disconnect those bulbs first, since, if said bulbs are drawing juice, the test lamp will be burning brightly and thus making it harder to detect shorts.

IHTH!
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