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03/03/11 at 08:22:03
 
2003 savage...
i have been riding my bike and everything has been fine for along time now...
i went to crank it up yesterday and nothing? no lights or nothing..
checked battery and its fully charged.. checked fuses... and top one is blown... i have looked at all wires etc and cannot find anything pinched or cut/touching anywhere? it has blown my mind... i spent all day yesterday and all this morning going over everything... Nothing.. i have now blown about 10 fuses... any help? anyone ever run across this...
thanks in advance..
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Reply #1 - 03/03/11 at 09:06:48
 
Most likely you have a short under the tank.
remove the headlight from the equation and drop to 10 amp fuse.
I'd disconnect systems until the problem goes away.
If it doesn't then it's the wiring harnass itself, which it probably is anyway.
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Reply #2 - 03/03/11 at 10:02:25
 
Do you have any aftermarket electrics?... if so, check those...
...even a turn signal short can be the culprit here...
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Reply #3 - 03/03/11 at 12:36:27
 
Get an ohm meter & a wiring diagram.
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Reply #4 - 03/03/11 at 16:30:22
 
Take one of those blown fuses and connect it with a light bulb.  When you find the short you will see the light!
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Reply #5 - 03/03/11 at 17:16:30
 
Paladin. wrote on 03/03/11 at 16:30:22:
Take one of those blown fuses and connect it with a light bulb.  When you find the short you will see the light!

Paladin... I don't understand how that works... Could you explain it to me?

Why doesn't the bulb just make a complete, un-fused circuit and cause a short fire or burn out?...
... and I do know I've got something wrong here,.. 'cause I know, if you just connect a bulb to positive and negative on a battery, it will light up.
Why don't it blow, like a fuse?...
HELP!... I'm stuck in a logic circle!... Huh...
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Reply #6 - 03/03/11 at 17:34:24
 
Serowbot wrote on 03/03/11 at 17:16:30:
Paladin. wrote on 03/03/11 at 16:30:22:
Take one of those blown fuses and connect it with a light bulb.  When you find the short you will see the light!

Paladin... I don't understand how that works... Could you explain it to me?

Why doesn't the bulb just make a complete, un-fused circuit and cause a short fire or burn out?...
... and I do know I've got something wrong here,.. 'cause I know, if you just connect a bulb to positive and negative on a battery, it will light up.
Why don't it blow, like a fuse?...
HELP!... I'm stuck in a logic circle!... Huh...




Me too,,
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Reply #7 - 03/03/11 at 18:24:25
 
Simple, the light bulb will keep the current to a safe value.
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Reply #9 - 03/03/11 at 19:12:24
 
Hey, Vers, my B/day is just 2 days ahead of Christmas. You can do 1/2 for the Bday & 1/2 for Christmas. Heck, man, Ill pay the darnged freight,,
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Reply #10 - 03/03/11 at 19:53:34
 
I just gave you the full link, do you want me to erase it and wait for xmas?
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Reply #11 - 03/03/11 at 22:16:24
 
verslagen1 wrote on 03/03/11 at 18:24:25:
Simple, the light bulb will keep the current to a safe value.

Whoosh!... blew right over my head...

So, but why will the light go on when you find the short,.. and not be on otherwise?... if the short isn't happening, isn't the circuit normal?,... positive, to fuse/bulb, to ground, and bingo... light is on!...
When the short is contacted,...positive goes straight to ground and fire ensues, wires burn, bad bad smells, and no more light...
... or,... if the bulb keeps the current at a safe value, preventing this,... why don't we use bulbs instead of fuses, and never have this problem in the first place...

I'm not kidding... I really don't get it.


I'm so lost...

I almost want to go create a short to try it...
...'cept I think I'd burn something up...
...and I've already done that trick...Huh...
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Reply #12 - 03/03/11 at 23:06:11
 
Serowbot wrote on 03/03/11 at 22:16:24:
So, but why will the light go on when you find the short

Ok, so you plug in a 12v bulb into your fuse box, it lights up.  that bulb is made to handle 12v and the highest rated bulb on your bike is about 33 watts.  p=iv ohm's law.  33=i12, i=33/12 about 3 amps.  When the light is burning bright, you gotta short, when it's dim, normal.  to be continued
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and not be on otherwise?... if the short isn't happening, isn't the circuit normal?,... positive, to fuse/bulb, to ground, and bingo... light is on!

Why is the bulb dim? Ohm's law... v=ir, 12=i(resistance of the bulb plus whatever else is on the same line), from above 12=i(4+?)  Lets say it's a line to the lights in the speedo, so 12=i(4+8) assuming the wattage of the indicator lights is twice the resistance. i= 12/12, i=1 amp, the light will be half as bright.
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When the short is contacted,...positive goes straight to ground and fire ensues, wires burn, bad bad smells, and no more light...
... or,... if the bulb keeps the current at a safe value, preventing this,... why don't we use bulbs instead of fuses, and never have this problem in the first place...

You remember that anemic magic sh!t box?  darn thing shuts down at 10v.  That light bulb fuse will steal voltage from the CDI box you'll have a dead savage.
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Reply #13 - 03/03/11 at 23:31:31
 
I think I got a little bit out of that,... gonna' have to let it soak before I'm sure...

Thanks Versy...
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Reply #14 - 03/04/11 at 07:14:10
 
LOL thanks for the info ... i was finally able to track it down.... it was in the ignition wires... some how the grey wire had melted and was bare ... looked as if maybe the seat had rubbed or pinched the wire into another...
problem solved... Wink

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