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jrm8486 FSO X2 Serious Thumper Offline ride it like you stole it! Posts: 574 Spring Hill FL. Gender:	Re jetting w/Jardine Muffler? 12/10/10 at 11:42:18 Does anyone have this muffler on there bike? I re jetted w/52.5pilot and 152.5 main w/ air pod and dyna,also 1/2 spacer.ran good. new muffler spiting and popping like mad even when adjusting air mix screw.do I have to re jet again and to what? any help?
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jrm8486 FSO X2 Serious Thumper Offline ride it like you stole it! Posts: 574 Spring Hill FL. Gender:	Re: Re jetting w/Jardine Muffler? Reply #1 - 12/10/10 at 12:55:23 Bike runs fine w/half choke out idles high but no backfiring,I think I should wait until I put the crush gasket in between new muffler and pipe,might this cause a backfiring w/ exhaust leak?
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EJID Serious Thumper Offline Work to ride and ride to work. Posts: 1536 Pocatello, ID Gender:	Re: Re jetting w/Jardine Muffler? Reply #2 - 12/10/10 at 14:16:47 Even the slightest exhaust leak can magnify the popping and cracking, found that out myself.
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jrm8486 FSO X2 Serious Thumper Offline ride it like you stole it! Posts: 574 Spring Hill FL. Gender:	Re: Re jetting w/Jardine Muffler? Reply #3 - 12/16/10 at 07:01:14 Put the new gasket in and still backfiring,I'm going to try and adj. one more time then not sure if I want to re jet or put the dyna back on.don't mind the noise but the backfiring has to go.
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jrm8486 FSO X2 Serious Thumper Offline ride it like you stole it! Posts: 574 Spring Hill FL. Gender:	Re: Re jetting w/Jardine Muffler? Reply #4 - 12/17/10 at 04:52:23 Nobody out there has a Jardine w/ air pod filter? still wondering what jetting your using?could use some help.
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Re: Re jetting w/Jardine Muffler?
Reply #5 - 12/17/10 at 05:04:50

Well, IM not quite AT sea level,, & you are, arent you?
Anyway, I have a 150 main, stock pilot & 14 discs on the S/trapp. Its not a big backfiring mess,,
Once youve got the leaky pipe sealed off, you can ride a bit & see if youre sooting up stuff with the exhaust. Mine soots up the brake arm some.
Figuring out just what part of the throttle is rich & where things go a bit lean isnt my forte at all. I know theres a way to roll off throttle a bit & feel to see if it picks up, indicating a lean condition.

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Reply #6 - 12/17/10 at 05:58:08

I have a stock air box, carb, header & jardine - I have not done anything to the guts of the carb - just adjusted the idle screw a little.....I have the snap crackle & pops and the loud backfiring and loud Bang when I shut it off......I like the noise - between the noise and the hi-vis riding gear they better dang well know I am in traffic with them - and the critters can hear me coming from quite a distance - gives them time to run, (away from - not in front of) me

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Re jetting w/Jardine Muffler? Reply #7 - 12/17/10 at 06:04:11 weracerc you would be surprised how much power you would pick up by going to a richer high speed jet
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weracerc Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 594 Greensboro, NC Gender:	Re: Re jetting w/Jardine Muffler? Reply #8 - 12/17/10 at 06:28:18 eventually i plan to do some carb work - right now being still being a newb more or less i dont need too much power - I figured by the time i have about 5K miles (3400 to go) I will be ready for some more power.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Re jetting w/Jardine Muffler? Reply #9 - 12/17/10 at 08:14:17 It wont be uncontrollable. Your wrist handles that part of it.Your engine will last longer jetted correctly.
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Reply #10 - 12/17/10 at 12:34:45

so get the Lancer kit, drop the bowl and put what back in it.....figuring it is box stock right now - I dont know for sure since I am 3rd owner.....2nd owner said he did not do anything to it but ride it - he did not know if 1st owner did anything to it carb wise or not.....had the stock exhaust on it when i got it and backfired then, not as impressively as it does now.

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Re: Re jetting w/Jardine Muffler?
Reply #11 - 12/17/10 at 13:36:25

I've got a cone filter and a jardine, but haven't got the jetting right at all, so it'd be useless to tell you what i've got in there.

last time i tried, i ended up going through three sizes of pilots, none of which got a perfect idle or died when adjusting the mixture screw. (it was my understanding that finding the best idle jet setting was to put a jet in, put the screw in until it dies, turn the screw out until it dies, and set the screw somewhere in the middle).

I got some muffler sealant stuff now, and plan on trying my hand again at jetting next season. maybe i'll pick up a carb from a junkyard to toy with.

one good thing is that my jardine is now a deep dark blue color, which i like much better than the chrome. not good at all for the bike, but i don't mind the side effect.

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jrm8486 FSO X2 Serious Thumper Offline ride it like you stole it! Posts: 574 Spring Hill FL. Gender:	Re: Re jetting w/Jardine Muffler? Reply #12 - 12/18/10 at 12:07:08 just rode my bike and adj.brass mix screw ,I think its all the way out,but not as bad w/ backfiring,so should I go from 52.5 jet to 55? any ideas?
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Re: Re jetting w/Jardine Muffler?
Reply #13 - 12/18/10 at 14:59:18

jrm8486 FSO X2 wrote on 12/18/10 at 12:07:08:

just rode my bike and adj.brass mix screw ,I think its all the way out,but not as bad w/ backfiring,so should I go from 52.5 jet to 55? any ideas?

Yes,... if it gets much more than three turns out, there is a danger of it falling out... go up a step on the pilot... (PS, it's an expensive screw to loose)...

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jrm8486 FSO X2 Serious Thumper Offline ride it like you stole it! Posts: 574 Spring Hill FL. Gender:	Re: Re jetting w/Jardine Muffler? Reply #14 - 12/19/10 at 14:27:15 just tried my bike again and guess I'll have to go up a jet to 55 just running like crap unless choke is half out.really don't feel like taking everything apart again but have no choice.Jardine was a direct bolt on w/ my 05,but had a amal carb on that one.
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