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jde30 YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 13 Gender:	oil change 11/04/10 at 14:40:36 I have 2 questions. what are the size if the alen head for the oil cover? and is it nessesary to change the o rings on the second oil change? I am new to motorcycles and do not want to mess anything.
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Edgar Senior Member Offline Are you a lucky little lady in the city of light? Posts: 353 San Diego	Re: oil change Reply #1 - 11/04/10 at 14:54:40 I wish everything was this easy http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1099572561
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Reply #2 - 11/04/10 at 19:26:21

jde, I think the hex heads are 5mm. I bought a set of Lysle metric hex wrenches in a plastic holder for $8 locally. I bought my '01 with 7400 miles on it. I now have 13,800 on it and have never changed the small o ring that seals against the hole in the filter, but I do feel it to make sure it is still pliable. I replaced the big o ring on the cover after my second change. It was seeping a little. BE SURE to install the filter in the correct orientation so it can get the oil through the larger hole that seals on the small o ring. Keep both o rings on hand just in case you need one. Oil pressure is not tremendous, so the bigger o ring doesn't have to be perfect. Don't overtighten the screws and remember to put the spring back in. No sweat.

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jde30 YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 13 Gender:	Re: oil change Reply #3 - 11/05/10 at 18:34:49 thank you for the info. I changed my oil this evening everything went well. it was easier than my car. is there a good place to buy the filters and o rings on line. the dealer seams to be a bit high. Thank you all for all the help. and information.
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thumperclone Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline PGR rider riding with respect Posts: 6107 Grand Junction Colorado Gender:	Re: oil change Reply #4 - 11/05/10 at 18:43:16 jde30 wrote on 11/05/10 at 18:34:49: thank you for the info. I changed my oil this evening everything went well. it was easier than my car. is there a good place to buy the filters and o rings on line. the dealer seams to be a bit high. Thank you all for all the help. and information.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: oil change Reply #5 - 11/05/10 at 21:51:52 Ill bet the poor guy is scratchin his head, tryin to figure out what that was all about,.
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Re: oil change
Reply #6 - 11/05/10 at 22:10:27

jde30 wrote on 11/05/10 at 18:34:49:

is there a good place to buy the filters and o rings on line. the dealer seams to be a bit high.

Go thru the list, prices vary. Figure out how many you'll need for the year and make a bulk purchase to save on shipping.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1137869987

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1137869500

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Reply #7 - 11/06/10 at 06:19:26

I get my filters from the local bike repair shop--cost about $4 each. I use Autozone 10w40. It's the right kind of oil at about 1/3 the price of the dealer, or of the exotic oils some folks on here use. The bike seems to enjoy it, ( no problems after 7 oil changes ) and my wallet enjoys the extra green stuff.
Oh dear God, this isn't going to cause yet another "oil war", is it?

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: oil change Reply #8 - 11/06/10 at 07:24:23 Oh dear God, this isn't going to cause yet another "oil war", is it? Most likely, unless youre willing to surrender NOW.
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Reply #9 - 11/06/10 at 07:31:58

Since I have a new 250 Star, still under warranty, I bought the Genuine Yamaha Oil and the Genuine Yamaha Oil Filter from the dealer. The oil was $4.95 per quart for conventional oil. Yesterday I happened to be perusing oil prices in Walmart, as part of my ongoing experiment with oils, and oil was about $3.90 depending on brand per quart. I'd say the dealer isn't marking the oil up an awful lot. Certainly not double or triple. Oil is a little less expensive purchased in gallon containers, but those containers are more awkward to use.

By the way, does anyone know whether oil has a shelf life?

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: oil change Reply #10 - 11/06/10 at 09:51:47 By the way, does anyone know whether oil has a shelf life? AFAIK, No. I suppose if it was gonna go bad, it woulda done done it before it got pumped outta the ground?
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Reply #11 - 11/06/10 at 15:39:05

Wasn't sure if I should have started another thread, but I'm gonna hijack this one. Where the heck is the drain plug?

I have an '06 S40, and the thing I think is the plug is almost obscured by one of the frame pipes. I can't get my socket wrench there, and my smallest wrench(adjustable) barely fits there. It's hard to get leverage to unscrew the plug. Plus, the ground is pretty close to it already....Am I doing something wrong here? Huh

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Phelonius Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1897	Re: oil change Reply #12 - 11/06/10 at 16:40:54 Allen screws at the oil filter are 6mm screws using a 5mm allen wrench. The drain plug is best served with a box end wrench and is located where the sun don't shine, don't lose the aluminum crush washer and replace it occasionally. About every third time it is removed. Phelonius
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Howitzer Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 141 Boston, MA Gender:	Re: oil change Reply #13 - 11/06/10 at 20:49:42 Thanks Phelonius. I was thinking that I might need a 12 point wrench.
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Routy Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2280 Winston Oregon Gender:	Re: oil change Reply #14 - 11/06/10 at 21:30:55 Yes, you do. Don't use an adjustable wrench anywhere on a motorcycle ! Howitzer wrote on 11/06/10 at 20:49:42: Thanks Phelonius. I was thinking that I might need a 12 point wrench.
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