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IN-S40 Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 128 Michigan City, IN Gender:	First start of the day 10/07/10 at 10:44:39 Hey everyone, I have noticed since I got my bike that on the first start of the day she smokes a little till it gets warmed up. I'm not talking like a bug fogger or anything just a little smoke. Wondering if this is common? Only on the first start does it smoke the rest of the day nothing. Thanks! Darren IN-S40
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28644 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: First start of the day Reply #1 - 10/07/10 at 11:09:31 Not common... What color smoke?...
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IN-S40 Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 128 Michigan City, IN Gender:	Re: First start of the day Reply #2 - 10/07/10 at 11:20:44 White-ish maybe a tiny blue tint. I did change my oil last weekend and before draining it I did run a bit of seafoam through the oil, couple ounces maybe. Then drain and put in fresh oil. maybe its the seafoam burning off?
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28644 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: First start of the day Reply #3 - 10/07/10 at 11:25:25 It's possible... If the bike's running good otherwise, put up with it 'till the next oil change... If the smoke continues, you likely need rings or valve guides... ... and keep an eye on oil consumption...
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Reply #4 - 10/07/10 at 15:52:02

Mine occasionally does that in the morning, not every morning and only when below 60 degrees. Funny thing is, I have hardly any oil consumption and it never does it right at startup. It has to run for at least 20 seconds, then sets in with the smoke for about another 20 seconds and then quits smoking. Like I said it has to be cooler than 60 degrees and does it about every four to five days. It also doesn't repeat it during the day, until stone cold again in the morning. I have no idea what that could be. Go figure.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28644 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: First start of the day Reply #5 - 10/07/10 at 16:19:56 ... after reading Ralfguy's post,... it could also be condensation building up in the muffler... Next time, give it a whif.... if it smells like burnt oil, it's burnt oil... No smell,... it's probably a water buildup... It'll eventually rust out your muffler... but no mechanical problem...
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Reply #6 - 10/07/10 at 17:34:41

IN-S40 wrote on 10/07/10 at 10:44:39:

Hey everyone, I have noticed since I got my bike that on the first start of the day she smokes a little till it gets warmed up. I'm not talking like a bug fogger or anything just a little smoke. Wondering if this is common? Only on the first start does it smoke the rest of the day nothing.

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Darren
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In cars with higher mileage, the valve stem seals sometimes leak a little oil into the cyclinders over night causing a little smoke at start up. Haven't torn down my bike, so I don't know if this is possible for the Savage. Any body else heard of this? Really no problem.

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IN-S40 Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 128 Michigan City, IN Gender:	Re: First start of the day Reply #7 - 10/07/10 at 17:49:43 well its an 05 with 4300 miles on it so i would hope its not valve stem seals or rings... It has been 45 degrees in the morning when i first start it so that could be something. I'll give it a wiff tomorrow and see if it smells like oil. Darren IN-S40
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: First start of the day Reply #8 - 10/07/10 at 17:55:16 I'm sure their nothing wrong with the motor jap bikes will go many miles with out any problems,It probability moister.
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jsarsfield Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 72	Re: First start of the day Reply #9 - 10/07/10 at 20:50:32 Burning a little oil on startup till she warms up? Your bike is trying to be a Harley
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Re: First start of the day
Reply #10 - 10/08/10 at 01:42:59

I had a little oil smoke on start up a while back. I had just changed oil and had tried a different oil. Can't remember which brand now so I won't get the oil thread going again. Went back to Castrol and Valvoline bike oil and it went away. I run 20-50 year round and have almost 18,000 miles on 'suzi. No morning fog and no oil burn between changes. The air cooled bikes are a lilltle looser on tolerances when cold. Once warmed up, everything tightens up. I think if you change oil and stay with a known good oil for the bike, your morning fog wil go away. I would't worry about it at all at this point.

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ralfyguy Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 932	Re: First start of the day Reply #11 - 10/08/10 at 04:45:43 Mine is a whitish-blue smoke and it does smell like burnt oil a little. She does that now since over two years/10.000 miles. She didn't do it all summer now, just ever since it got cooler a week ago again. Could it be a drop or two from the breather tube getting sucked into the carb?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: First start of the day Reply #12 - 10/08/10 at 07:11:54 I smoke a bit first thing in the mornin, if I dont get my COFFEEE!!! Dont you try to get me started afore Ive had at least 3 cups..
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IN-S40 Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 128 Michigan City, IN Gender:	Re: First start of the day Reply #13 - 10/08/10 at 13:44:38 Well checked it out this morning and it is indeed oil. It not always the same amount though. Yesturday it was just a little smoke today it was alittle more. I'll keep an eye on the oil, if it continues i might swap the oil out and try somethign else. Darren IN-S40
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Re: First start of the day
Reply #14 - 10/08/10 at 15:39:56

Boofer wrote on 10/07/10 at 17:34:41:

In cars with higher mileage, the valve stem seals sometimes leak a little oil into the cyclinders over night causing a little smoke at start up. Haven't torn down my bike, so I don't know if this is possible for the Savage. Any body else heard of this? Really no problem.

Haven't heard of it, but doesn't mean it don't happen.
I agree with boofer.
You might take a look at the valves the next after sitting over night.
Take the header off and give it a peek. Shocked

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