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babyhog Serious Thumper Offline Find a Cure for Breast Cancer! NOW!! Posts: 3802 WV Gender:	Re: Rear Brakes Reply #15 - 10/06/10 at 19:41:28 Ok, so I was looking at the adjustment nut, and now I'm more perplexed. Before I go pulling the rear tire, does anybody have any guesses as to what I'll find?? And I can see the brake-wear gage, but what part of the arm is supposed to be between the end marks? The '87 model: My '06 model:
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Rear Brakes Reply #16 - 10/06/10 at 19:50:57 Well, one thing is clear. The nut is at the END of the adjustment on the 87. Its time to go in there & have a look. Since the shoes only spread from one end, right? Weell, IF they only spread at 1 end, then is it possible to rotate the shoes & go some more? Ive forgotten how it works in there. Anyway, its time to do something.
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Boofer Serious Thumper Offline Nearly too old. Posts: 1760 N Ms Gender:	Re: Rear Brakes Reply #17 - 10/06/10 at 19:52:53 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/06/10 at 19:08:02: Ever notice no one has started selling brake pads with a pic of Fred Flintstone throwing dirt up with his feet on the front of the package? JOG, The Flintstones turned 50 last week. A lot of the people on here may not have ever seen them. Yabba Dabba Dooooo
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Reply #18 - 10/06/10 at 20:03:22

Well, duh. I know its time to do "something" since we have no stoppage when the rear brake pedal is applied. But I do appreciate the help... really.

When we took the hub off the '86 parts bike, the shoes are obviously good, I'm just hating the thought of taking that rear wheel off. Was hoping for an adjustment when I learned that rear brakes last so long. Oh well, guess I gotta do what I gotta do...

Ha! The Flinstones are older than me!!! But I love Barney. Wink

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Reply #19 - 10/07/10 at 03:35:31

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/06/10 at 19:08:02:

Ever notice no one has started selling brake pads with a pic of
Fred Flintstone throwing dirt up with his feet on the front of the package?

I'm on my 3rd set of motorcycle boot soles, and on still my 1st set of rear brake shoes. I'm just saying..
(But I have gone through a LOT of front brake pads!)

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Re: Rear Brakes
Reply #20 - 10/08/10 at 07:24:00

Yep I bought mine from ATV Brakes n' More... here's the link...
http://atvbrakesnmore.ecrater.com/p/4087060/suzuki-brakes-86-88-95-04-ls-650-...
I've been very happy with them. The rear was super noisy when I bought the bike so I figured I'd swap them out since I was doing the front pads anyway. They don't make any noise at all now.
There was a TON of old brake dust in the drum so I blew that out and I think the old rear pads were just plain hardened (they were glazed).

I set the adjustment arm to the line up with the first scribe mark but it was forward of that when I took it off. Right now my brakes will lock up if I stomp it but I think I'm going to adjust the arm forward some to make them a little more sensitive. The adjustment nut is just about maxed forward as it is now...
Hope that helps,

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babyhog Serious Thumper Offline Find a Cure for Breast Cancer! NOW!! Posts: 3802 WV Gender:	Re: Rear Brakes Reply #21 - 10/08/10 at 07:31:07 Thanks Bubba. I still don't know what is supposed to line up between the marks on the hub?? The "space" on the arm (the joint that the screw on the end closes up), or one of the corners of the arm???? Because that space is way forward on the marks on mine (the '06), but my brakes work perfectly! I would not want to change anything.
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Re: Rear Brakes
Reply #22 - 10/08/10 at 07:44:32

Beats me...on my '06 the "space" was set up forward of the scribe marks. I set the "space" to line up with the forward scribe when I did my brakes but I've looked at a couple of savages since then and they appear to be lined up forward of that, I'll probably go back to forward again just so I have some adjustment to work with on the cable nut.

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DrunkenDwarf Senior Member Offline Morning Zombie Posts: 325 Seattle, WA Gender:	Re: Rear Brakes Reply #23 - 10/08/10 at 16:18:02 On my '07 there is a line on the hub that the arm clamps on. I believe that it's this line that's intended to be between the marks on the hub. Moving the arm a few splines just changes your leverage. -D. Dwarf
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Reply #24 - 10/08/10 at 16:47:24

babyhog wrote on 10/08/10 at 07:31:07:

Thanks Bubba.

I still don't know what is supposed to line up between the marks on the hub?? The "space" on the arm (the joint that the screw on the end closes up), or one of the corners of the arm???? Because that space is way forward on the marks on mine (the '06), but my brakes work perfectly! I would not want to change anything.

babyhog, You are right on what lines up between the marks. It is the space the bolt closes up. Imagine a line at 90 degrees to the bolt that holds the lever in place on the hub. This line will also extend, in your mind, down the brake lever itself. When you put the new brakes on, just line up the imaginary line down the center of the brake arm with the mark toward the front of the bike. Of course you will allow for a little freeplay. As the linings wear down, the imaginary line will move rearward through the space between the marks. You can adjust the nut on the brake linkage to whatever firmness you need, but it does not change the wear marks or how much lining you have. I have a headache. I need to take some Tylenol and lie down, now. Boofer

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Re: Rear Brakes
Reply #25 - 10/08/10 at 18:46:52

Boofer wrote on 10/08/10 at 16:47:24:

babyhog wrote on 10/08/10 at 07:31:07:

Thanks Bubba.

I still don't know what is supposed to line up between the marks on the hub?? The "space" on the arm (the joint that the screw on the end closes up), or one of the corners of the arm???? Because that space is way forward on the marks on mine (the '06), but my brakes work perfectly! I would not want to change anything.

babyhog, You are right on what lines up between the marks. It is the space the bolt closes up. Imagine a line at 90 degrees to the bolt that holds the lever in place on the hub. This line will also extend, in your mind, down the brake lever itself. When you put the new brakes on, just line up the imaginary line down the center of the brake arm with the mark toward the front of the bike. Of course you will allow for a little freeplay. As the linings wear down, the imaginary line will move rearward through the space between the marks. You can adjust the nut on the brake linkage to whatever firmness you need, but it does not change the wear marks or how much lining you have. I have a headache. I need to take some Tylenol and lie down, now. Boofer

Perfect. Thanks Boof. Hope your head feels better.

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Boofer Serious Thumper Offline Nearly too old. Posts: 1760 N Ms Gender:	Re: Rear Brakes Reply #27 - 10/09/10 at 16:53:25 I'm all better now. I just realized that thinking is not for the inexperienced.
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babyhog Serious Thumper Offline Find a Cure for Breast Cancer! NOW!! Posts: 3802 WV Gender:	Re: Rear Brakes Reply #28 - 10/10/10 at 16:02:15 Changed the rear brakes today. Quick and easy... well, we used the entire hub that the brakes are clipped to from our parts bike, so it was even easier! But they work like a charm! Getting the wheel back into alignment was a little tricky, maybe just because it was our first time, but we got it! Thanks for all the help!
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