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Metzler versus Dunlop
09/14/10 at 12:46:31

I have run Dunlop tires on my Savage from the first tire change. Out of curiosity, I just had a set of Metzler ME 880s put on. I haven't even buffed off the tires yet, only about 30 miles on them, but I can already notice a significant difference between the two, at least for me. The Metzlers deliver a lot rougher ride. I feel all of the road bumps more with the Metzlers than I do with the Dunlops. Almost makes me want to change shocks, or go to a sprung seat. I can only assume that it is because the sidewall on the Metzler is a lot stiffer than the sidewall on the Dunlop.

Any other riders had the same experience?

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Metzler versus Dunlop Reply #1 - 09/14/10 at 12:56:04 Its good to see a honest opinion Lot of people change something and say its better whether it is or not,My one brother is one that has always did that.
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ralfyguy Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 932	Re: Metzler versus Dunlop Reply #2 - 09/14/10 at 13:00:41 Are you sure you ran them both on the same tire pressure? And besides, you can adjust the shocks to be softer.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28660 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Metzler versus Dunlop Reply #3 - 09/14/10 at 13:04:28 bill67 wrote on 09/14/10 at 12:56:04: Its good to see a honest opinion Lot of people change something and say its better whether it is or not,My one brother is one that has always did that. In that case,... these signals are invisible... ...
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Metzler versus Dunlop Reply #4 - 09/14/10 at 13:10:09 What signals
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Re: Metzler versus Dunlop
Reply #5 - 09/14/10 at 13:38:19

gerald.hughes wrote on 09/14/10 at 12:46:31:

I have run Dunlop tires ... Metzler ME 880s put on. ... I can already notice a significant ... a lot rougher ride. ...

Hmmmm....

Had Dunlop 404's on the front, Dunlops and then ChinShin whatevers on the rear, switched to ME880s... http://www.dslretorts.com/Paladin/archives/002609.html since July 2008 and 6,000+ miles. I noticed immediately, was thinking it was twitchy. By a week I realized that it was being more responsive. I LIKE 'em.

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Reply #6 - 09/14/10 at 16:27:32

When I switched from D404s to ME880s, I almost hopped the curb on the first corner.. MUCH more responsive! (Of course, new tires as compared to a worn out tires...)
Anyway, once I switched to Metzler, I never tried another tire. As such, I can not tell you if it rides "rougher" or not. I run 40lbs front and back (as per the Metzler recommendation for the LS650). I like the handling, I love the mileage (19,500 rear, around 23,500 front).

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thumperclone Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline PGR rider riding with respect Posts: 6067 Grand Junction Colorado Gender:	Re: Metzler versus Dunlop Reply #7 - 09/14/10 at 17:58:01 me thinks its your abilty once the grease is worn off imo there isnt a better tire (tyre) than the 880 metzs...jmo
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Reply #8 - 09/14/10 at 18:57:30

I have only used the OEM tires and then switched to Metzler tires. I have noticed that the Metzlers like to be inflated to 40PSI. I tried airing them up to 36PSI to improve the ride but the rear tier gets squirrelly at that pressure, so I keep them at 40PSI. I have 10,000 miles on the rear and about 6,0000 miles on the front. It looks like I will get a lot more out of the rear tire.

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Reply #9 - 09/15/10 at 14:12:02

I rode a set of Dunlop 404's thru the desert in a blinding downpour with a 30 mph crosswind and did not even slip one inch. ( This was from work to home at night when I was living in AZ about 2 years ago on my S40). I also had 404's on my Nomad and it was a lot smoother riding than when I had the Metzlers on it. One more thing---I noticed I had small spider web cracks in my front hub on my 05 S40---check your hubs!!!

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28660 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Metzler versus Dunlop Reply #10 - 09/15/10 at 15:11:29 wingsout wrote on 09/15/10 at 14:12:02: One more thing---I noticed I had small spider web cracks in my front hub on my 05 S40---check your hubs!!! That's scary!... ...
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ralfyguy Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 932	Re: Metzler versus Dunlop Reply #11 - 09/15/10 at 18:59:18 You sure it's cracks and not just imperfections in the casting? Never seen a hub blow to pieces yet.
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Reply #12 - 09/15/10 at 19:55:45

Gerald, I replaced my rear tire with a K555 dunlop and noticed only a little difference between it and the IRC. I replaced the front with a Metz and thought my fillings would fall out on the way home. After a week or so I started enjoying the grip from the Metz. Either it got broken in or I got used to it. Going with Metezeler on the rear next time if I can afford it.

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Re: Metzler versus Dunlop
Reply #13 - 09/15/10 at 20:23:51

Guys I'm driving with a broken neck and a couple of metal bars to hold things together. I am getting close to replacing the skins and I 'NEED' a softer ride. Your average pot hole means an instant migraine. My Kawasakis and Goldwings ran with Dunlop Elites, but those were 700lb bikes.
For those who have tried 'both' the Dunlop and Metzs what is your opinion.
I have already upgraded to Progressive 440 shocks.

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Wake51 Full Member Offline Murphy's Law Posts: 214 St. Louis Gender:	Re: Metzler versus Dunlop Reply #14 - 09/15/10 at 20:42:06 I'm in search of my first set of tires so this thread perked my curiosity. I was leaning towards the Metzlers. Can anyone shoot some part numbers my way? And any recommendations of where to buy tires from?
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