Mark,

When you move Monsanto's single variety away from its geographic area that it was bred in to another area with a different climate, 25% reduction in yields are typical compared to the non-modified varieties that were developed in and for that area.

Weeds are the reason people buy Monsanto seeds -- just air plane spray the entire field with roundup and kill off everything (the Monsanto seeded plants just keep on growing while the roundup nukes everything else green in the area.

Organic farmers hate the stuff and refuse to use it -- but they are finding that the wind and Monsanto's lawyers seem to like their organic crops, especially after the key legal precedent 25% infection level is reached.

Now, what is neat is if the local variety of crop that does give full yields in the area picks up the modified roundup gene through air crossing then Monsanto claims the plants as theirs, takes them and soon is marketing a local "tuned" seed that the farmer is forced to buy because he is sued into it.

Ain't progress grand?

Monsanto will not allow you to keep their seed from one year to the next or reseed anything taken from your harvest -- you MUST buy fresh seed from them every year.

People in the public information industry are beginning to pay attention as Obama is trying to cram through an entire regulatory bureaucracy to enforce the Monsanto business model.   (once again, in lobbying and direct contributions to select politicians, nobody outspends Monsanto in this activity, not even big oil)

Mark,

I specifically gave you a national women's publication that is NOT extremist in its viewpoint -- indeed they were "debunking" the whole thing originally but unfortunately found out it is the truth.

Then they reported it as news, with direct interviews of the persons involved.

Did you even watch the two videos?

Mark,

Vanity Fair is a ladies magazine.  It isn't especially biased.   I would tend to trust it, as it and the videos provided upstream have drilled down to the root people involved and only deal with first hand sources, not the "he said she said stuff".

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/05/monsanto200805

Yes, Monsanto's stock is currently plunging (from a 1,600%  meteoric rise that priced it way over the company's real value) and that is partially due to Chinese competition in the Roundup Division and perhaps some to the fact that every media source is beginning to report on their business model and rampant suing activities and are beginning to point out they are on the way to becoming a functional monopoly in a critical supply chain

(our food supply chain, fer chrissakes).

Monsanto's consulting with Bill Gates though (to pick up tips for fighting the inevitable government intervention?) that's scary to me.  Bill Gates liking what he saw enough to move a large chunk of his hundreds of billions into Monsanto stock scares the shite out of me.   They showed him their planned next expansion steps and he LIKED it ....  a whole lot apparently.   Billions worth.

Bill Gates is not the poster boy for anything, he a greedy SOB.  His manipulation of the PC industry is legendary, as is the unscrupulous methods that he has used to stifle all forms of competition.  
Monsanto and Gates in the same bed is a scary thing ....

Modifying and patenting all the heirloom plant varieties in the Greenland International Seed Repository is only one visible step of that overall Monsanto plan.

As is getting the Obama government to try to pass laws that tightly regulate all farming (including your back yard), new rules that seem to fall into lock step with the Monsanto business model.

You are not informed and apparently don't care to be, that's fine.  I too was once proud of Monsanto as they were doing good and progressive things with no visible downsides.

But every big company seems to go evil when they finally reach monopolistic status, they can't cope with resisting trying to wag the dog when they finally get the ability to do so.  

Watch Monsanto.  Watch them legally manipulate your food supply chain AND YOUR GOVERNMENT to your detriment and their fiscal advantage.  

Watch your food costs rise ......  

Even the average woman is better informed on this issue than most of us guys as they SEE the prices going up and they can see their own female information stream telling them about why it is going on.

And when they start caring enough, they will inform all you guys about what you think too.





Also, your reference point above about Monsanto's roundup division hitting rough times from the cheaper Chinese copies of roundup does not address MONSANTO as a whole -- we keep talking about the much larger seed part of the company (where all the profit is) and how they are attempting a world monopoly on seed supply and legal control of our food supply accordingly.  

Hey, If Monsanto was still just a chemical company, that would be fine by me.

They are not though -- they are the HUGE company that is into bioscience in a big way and are currently modifying all our food crops and PATENTING them and threatening to sue small farmers (non-customers) for wind blown pollen contamination of their organic crops.  

They took the genetic material from the International Seed Repository (seed that was preserved in case of a "Irish Potato Famine" class international emergency) and they took it, modified it and are currently patenting all forms types and classes of all historical varieties of crop foods in an attempt to advance a legally restrictive monopolistic business model.

The geome rush is on boys and girls -- think about it like the California Gold rush.   What happens in the next 20 years is gonna rock your world -- or mebbe end it if people get stupid and greedy.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/worklife/10/27/cb.what.major.pays/index.html

Every smart young person recognizes this fact -- guess what the most popular college major is now-a-days?

Easy peasy my friend, jest type it into Google .....  Item #3 & #5 are the ones that you'd like best I think.   OK, some of these found sources shown on the search are "out there" this I freely admit and I wouldn't worry too much about their given opinions -- but follow inside them to the actual sources to the root incident and give credence to what actually happened.

Showing results for monsanto sues for wind blown pollination. Search instead for monsanto sues for wind blown pollenation
Search Results

  1.
     Context of 'Mid-July 2001: Monsanto Sues Second Saskatchewan ...
     It contains events related to the event Mid-July 2001: Monsanto Sues Second .... arrived on Schmeiser's property by way of pollination or wind-blown seed. ...
     www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=gm-61 - Cached
  2.
     Genetically Modified Crops Threaten Traditional Farming
     Maine, USA – Monsanto sued Oakhurst Dairy on account of advertisements that ... Wind blown pollination results in the burning of contaminated fields and ...
     hubpages.com/.../GeneticallyModifiedCropsThreatenTraditionalFarming - Cached
  3.
     High Plains Drifting: Wind-Blown Seeds and the Intellectual ...
     by SM Bernhardt - 2006 - Cited by 6 - Related articles
     Finally, pollination actually converts the farmer's property to the patent .... 67Karl A. Thiel, Seeds in the Wind: For Monsanto, Patent Protection Stirs ...
     www.law.northwestern.edu › ... › Volume 4 › Issue 1 - Cached - Similar
  4.
     S/R 31: Genetic Engineering and Environmental Racism (Fitz)
     Monsanto sued Schmeiser for patent violations when genetic testing showed ... the Monsanto product and that wind-blown pollen had contaminated his fields. ... GM pollen is known to kill butterflies, which are important pollinators for ...
     www.greens.org/s-r/31/31-03.html - Cached - Similar
  5.
     Andrew Kimbrell: A Victory for Democracy, Another Blow to Monsanto
     Apr 1, 2010 ... The idea that Monsanto sues adjacent farmers is a myth spread by Percy Schmeiser, ..... Denver Mint To Coin New Energy Approach, Use Wind ...
     www.huffingtonpost.com/.../a-victory-for-democracy_b_521505.html - Cached
  6.
     Monsanto warns on 2010 earnings target; shares slip | Reuters
     Apr 7, 2010 ... Monsanto warned on Wednesday that full-year results would likely be at the low end .... farmer's field just so happen to have the wind blow seed is theirs. Then Monsanto sues the farmer who had seeds land in his field. ...
     www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6362DI20100407 - Cached
  7.
     Oct 04, Myth & Necessity of GM Free Zone - Seeds of Deception
     Canadian Percy Schmeiser was sued by Monsanto when the company's herbicide ... license or their plants are contaminated by wind blown pollen or insects, ... Soybeans, for example, do not cross pollinate, yet at least half of the bags of ...
     www.seedsofdeception.com/Public/Newsletter/.../index.cfm - Cached
  8.
     Monsanto Seed Company Sues Farmer After its Seeds Blow Into His ...
     In Canada, a farmer who used his own seeds, was sued by Monsanto because some of ... Monsanto seeds cross pollinated with the farmers crops, producing plants that carry .... Solar Power, Technology, Tribal People, Water, wind energy ...
     twilightearth.com/.../monsanto-seed-company-sues-farmer-after-its-seeds-blow-int
o-his-field-genetically-altering-his-crop/ - Cached - Similar
  9.
     The Conflict
     Farmers buying Monsanto's seed must sign a contract promising to buy fresh seed ... seed could easily have blown on to his soil from passing canola-laden trucks. ... "If it gets in by wind or cross-pollination, that doesn't matter." ...
     www.percyschmeiser.com/conflict.htm - Cached - Similar
 10.
     t r u t h o u t | GMO Contamination in Mexico's Cradle of Corn
     Dec 11, 2008... in Mexico - where wind-blown pollination of corn is the norm and where .... Perhaps the farmers should sue Monsanto for contamination of ...
     www.truth-out.org/121208D - Cached

Showing results for monsanto sues for wind blown pollination. Search instead for the original terms: monsanto sues for wind blown pollenation

Don't worry JOG, Vanity Fair and the other check out magazines at very grocery store are beginning to run stories on why food prices are shooting up ....  all the women are getting up in arms over it.
 
The women will handle it.   Every politician has a wife.

.............  and now, the original heading of this post is water over the dam.


Melinda Gates has talked hubby Bill out of supporting Monsanto's attempt to gain a monopolistic foothold in the India food supply.  

India's politicians have rejected the GM seed / chemical over spray business model and the self-poisoning BT gene enhanced green veggies too.

And you all are aware of how YOUR FOOD IS BEING FOOKED WITH and perhaps your grandkids may not have grandkids because of it .....

(remember, the male lab rats balls turned blue and fell off)


                             






   is this shite for real?  



     
Well, the Seattle Times newspaper, the Wall Street Journal and the Securities and Exchange Commission seem to think so.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2012751169_gatesmonsanto29m.html

The start of it was a casual statement by Gates in a press briefing that the FDA et al would "take care" of the third world overpopulation issue.   Sounded like a nonsensical statement at the time, didn't it?

Then some people noted that Gates was investing heavily in Monsanto through the Gates Foundation.   Monsanto that was heavy into genetic manipulation of food crops.    Supposedly Gates Foundation and Monsanto were going to cooperate to help end world hunger in India and third world countries by introducing Monsanto genetically modified grains and greens to the poor starving ignorant India peasants.   This was their stated purpose, anyway.

People also discovered that Monsanto BT gene enhanced greens of several different varieties had been fed to lab rats in independent university tests, rats that could produce no fourth generation due to testicular atrophy after eating the shite for 100% of their diet for a whole generation or three.  

(such long term tests are now being redone for confirmation by many different universities and departments of this and that.  
Be interesting to see how they all turn out)  

Suspicious minds connected the dots to Bill's interesting statement.   A furor was raised on the net that alerted the India Government officials who just now decided not to have anything to do with Monsanto's gene altered veggies pending a full testing review and full ecological workup.    

BTW, we are already eating the shite here in America because our carefully bribed FDA politicians simply didn't do a full testing review nor an ecological workup on the BT modification because Monsanto said it wasn't necessary.  

          so kiss your bees & butterflies goodbye when that BT gene mod hops from plant species to plant species to plant species    

You see, them India Indians happen to like having lots of great great grand kids, lots of bees and butterflies ....
its a cultural thing with them folks over there.    

Us America, not so much apparently (or else our government is stupid or crooked or mebbe both).

Bill Gates was getting BLASTED by the negative publicity and his wife Melinda was contacted by the She Who Must Not Be Named and told to have her hubby lay off the Monsanto deal -- you see women in general tend to like having great great grandkids too.

Then, as usual around here the thread went many different places not all of which had a dam thing to do with the topic.

clear as mud now?




(I enjoyed it anyway, almost as good as an oil war !!)  

That's OK Bill, let's go to McDonalds and eat us a HiPro lettuce McSalad.  It's 15% of your daily protein and vitamin requirement according to Monsanto and the FDA ....




Hey Bill Gates, now exactly what sort of protein did you guys splice into that there lettuce?  

OK, now what the heck is this Soylent Green stuff anyway?   How can it be "100% digestible by humans and is 5 times more effective for human nutrition than beef or pork"?