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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Engine Ticking + Harsh shifting? Reply #15 - 08/23/10 at 04:31:33 JOG what brand of oil do you use?
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Reply #16 - 08/23/10 at 05:50:56

Oil also cannot keep valve seats and the edges of the valves from wearing. The oil doesn't even get to those places. Wear there causes valves to tighten, and when they tighten up enough to take out all the clearances in the system the valves leak, and then burn.
Best advice is to use whatever grade of oil the owner's manual recommends. Conventional or synthetic will work just fine. Additives, whether for oil or fuel, are not recommended.

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Reply #17 - 08/23/10 at 05:57:49

Additive Sea Foam for the oil and gasoline is highly recommend,Walmart and every hardware,and auto parts carry it. If it didn't work it would have been off their shelves many years ago,Charon don't tell newbies something that you don't know about,You are doing the old record thing again. Angry

Sea Foam lubes the valve seats and edges of valves.

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Reply #18 - 08/23/10 at 06:27:03

bill67 wrote on 08/23/10 at 04:31:33:

JOG what brand of oil do you use?

For about the 1st 3 or 4 oil changes, I used Official, right outta the Motorcycle shop oils. It still needed valves adjusted & even tho Id used the kinds of oils I was "supposed to", my cam chain tensioner got out of spec. I started reading & asking questions & eventually settled on Rotella. Diesel engines are very demanding of good lubrication. I figured an oil that could keep something like that alive had to be a decent oil. Works out, Ize Right!

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Reply #19 - 08/23/10 at 08:21:42

Sillydilly,

Welcome to the endless OIL WAR !!!

You didn't know we had an oil war draft around here, did ya?

You can't be drafted until after you are 16, but after that you have to go war with the rest of us ....

It's list policy

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(and you have listed your position already as "I do adjust my valves and I do use additives in my oil")

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We gots us a BRAND NEW "wild growing data image" fresh plucked from the holler,

and as soon as Dr. Verslagen gets off the golf course he

can explain jest what the heck it all means ....

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sillydilly Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 231	Re: Engine Ticking + Harsh shifting? Reply #20 - 08/23/10 at 11:44:05 Man I am so confused right now. Probably not going to bother with the speedo rattle and Im definately not chopping the bike I've got the long-legged disease and Im afraid I might need to move onto something bigger
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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12671 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: Engine Ticking + Harsh shifting? Reply #21 - 08/23/10 at 11:47:52 Have you considered forward controls? Ed sells them for the Savage over in the marketplace and he (and some of the rest of the ones around here) are around six feet tall and use the forward controls to give them leg stretch room. Don't get confused by the boys, they is jest foolin around wid each other. me too
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Reply #22 - 08/23/10 at 12:40:32

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/23/10 at 06:27:03:

bill67 wrote on 08/23/10 at 04:31:33:

JOG what brand of oil do you use?

For about the 1st 3 or 4 oil changes, I used Official, right outta the Motorcycle shop oils. It still needed valves adjusted & even tho Id used the kinds of oils I was "supposed to", my cam chain tensioner got out of spec. I started reading & asking questions & eventually settled on Rotella. Diesel engines are very demanding of good lubrication. I figured an oil that could keep something like that alive had to be a decent oil. Works out, Ize Right!

Jog are you using Diesel fuel too.

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Reply #23 - 08/23/10 at 16:53:55

Bill67, you clearly do not understand Walmart. They don't care whether additives WORK - only that they SELL. I am tired of arguing with you - you win. Say all you want about worthless additives - which they all are. You have beaten me. I admit defeat. Newbies are on their own to do their own research. I hope you are happy.

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Engine Ticking + Harsh shifting? Reply #24 - 08/23/10 at 16:57:26 Charon I've seen it work to many times in the oil and in the gasoline not to tell people about it.A lot of people I know use it farmers, boaters,cars. and motorcycles.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Engine Ticking + Harsh shifting? Reply #25 - 08/23/10 at 18:13:51 Boy I'd sure like to see you 2 get together. I'm sure the resounding crack from you 2 butting heads together will make a herd of big horn sheep stand up and take notice.
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Reply #26 - 08/23/10 at 18:29:19

Charon,

Bill is totally impervious to data or facts -- they just bounce off. You gotta understand, he has a medical condition that renders him "in belief" that they work as stated.

Any vendor's product claim is believed if it means Bill can pour it in (and NOT have to hit a bolt head with a wrench -- ever).

They named the syndrome after him -- Bills Syndrome

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Engine Ticking + Harsh shifting? Reply #27 - 08/23/10 at 18:32:56 OF did you ever change the oil in a shock?
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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12671 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: Engine Ticking + Harsh shifting? Reply #28 - 08/23/10 at 23:20:20 Not on a Savage, was on a Honda front fork (if that is what you mean by shock). If you mean rear shock, no.
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Engine Ticking + Harsh shifting? Reply #29 - 08/24/10 at 03:07:46 I mean rear shock
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