As a matter of fact, I am quite serious. In fact, I would go further. WILLFUL violation of the Federal noise LAWS would cause the machine to be impounded. You would not get a fix-it ticket - the bike would be impounded. You would not ride it away for repair - it would be towed. It could only be released to an authorized dealership for that brand, and could not be released from that dealership until it had been restored to a factory exhaust and emissions. To put it quite bluntly,  you are WILLFULLY violating the law of the land. Your "right" to make obnoxious noise ends where my ears begin. Any more questions?

Charon wrote on 08/23/10 at 16:03:25:


Law of the land? HAHA I didn't think there could be anyone this close minded especially on this forum but you have proved me wrong.

You sound like a miserable old man who didn't get his meds.

So, what you are saying is that I am not entitled to an opinion, because it differs from yours. Or did I miss something?

Charon wrote on 08/23/10 at 16:03:25:

ya call that a friendly opinion?

Charon wrote on 08/23/10 at 17:54:00:


nope, you are completely entitled to ur opinion, but we live in the greatest country in the world where we can differ from ur opinion and say it out loud through public channels.  which goes back to the heart of the issue, not loud pipes, but on increasing government involvement in our lives and the gradual raping of our personal freedoms.  

put a frog in boiling water and it'll jump out immediately, put it in cold water and slowly bring to a boil and he will never know he is being cooked.  every ounce of freedom u give up, every inch u give to them, they will take a mile.  and before u even realize whats happened, you've replaced liberty with complacentcy and apathetic comfort.  and while u think life is lukewarm, ur really being cooked alive.

Regarding all this talk about "rights" and "laws," I wanted to post the actual law on motorcycle noise.

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2003/olrdata/tra/rpt/2003-r-0676.htm

Basically, your motorcycle has to be <84db going 36mph on a paved road.

Also, FEDERAL law states no more than 80db at 2840rpm standing still (source: EPA label on my Savage XD). I believe that is measured 20 inches away from the tip of the muffler at a 45 degree angle, just like cars and trucks.

We live in a representative democracy. (If there's any 'raping of rights' going on it is far more by corporations who have their own perverted ideas of their proportion of representation than it is by our governments.)

Now where do laws and rules come from in a representative democracy? They come from the will of the people.  They do not materialize out of no where.

There are laws at all governmental levels on vehicle noise generation. If there weren't I believe most of us would be a lot unhappier. Remember it's about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. But here's the complicated part. It's not these three things just for you, it's these three things for everyone.

Now just because you can get away with loud piping your motorcycle, and just because others are doing the same, it doesn't make what you are doing right. It doesn't make the law any less valid or the will of the people any less clear.

Riding a motorcycle is a personal choice and one you should make in full awareness of substantial additional risks. You can improve your odds by wearing a helmet and bright colored protective clothing, using a headlight modulator, mounting a loud horn, and riding sober and smart (make sure intersections are clear, dont' tailgate, don't pass left-turning vehicles on the right, keep out of driver's blind spots, drive at the right speed for the conditions, go into turns slow and go out fast, etc. etc. etc.). These measures together make a loud pipe not only illegal, but unnecessary.

P.S. I've got to admit this debate is more enjoyable than an Oil War or Seafoam thread.

So I'm going down the road, completely stock bike just as I got it.
Still relatively inexperienced, traveling down the superslab, left of center in the lane, heavy traffic about 30 mph.  The guy next to me has ilegally tinted windows, ac on most likely.  I would be eye to eye with the idiot if I could see him.  Said idiot decides my lane is faster and procedes to cut over.  This is not some urban myth you just read.  But an actual account by a fellow savage.

A month or two later, I get a supertrapp and it hasn't happened since.

Burn has said he's been run off the road several times.  He has also gotten a louder pipe with the same results.

Now buck, you keep saying that a loud pipe is ilegal and unnecessary.
And Charon, you say only stock noise levels should be allowed.
I'm sure my ex would have appreciated all of the insurance money.

Since these event happen with regular occurance with a stock pipe, and are now rare with a moderately louder pipe, I'm sure you can appreciate my opinion that quiet pipes reduce the awareness of the surrounding cagers.  No brightly colored helmet or jacket will improve it, my helmet is yellow and red, my jacket is bright blue.  My bike is red.  And yet I can sit eye to eye with my neighbor and he won't see me.