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Reply #30 - 08/21/10 at 17:03:13

I believe Denver is working on, or has passed, a law similar to NYC saying motorcycles must have stock pipes. I wholeheartedly agree with them, though that will make me even more unpopular on here.

If I were the Feds, I would not allow loud pipes into any of the National parks, or for that matter any other Federal property. The test would be simple - if it sounds loud to the person at the gate, that person looks for the EPA label. If the EPA label isn't there, the motorcycle is not admitted. I know that won't work against the people who drill out stock pipes, but it is a start.

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Reply #31 - 08/21/10 at 19:22:52

BurnPgh wrote on 08/20/10 at 15:12:52:

Ruddy wrote on 08/19/10 at 19:44:11:

"Loud pipes lose rights. Rider training saves lives." That's it. Period. This so called "Loud pipes saves lives" garbage is nothing more than a flimsy excuse for immature, obnoxious behavior. There are NO statistics to back up that claim and plenty to show the damage the noise does to our image. Angry

I like a nice mellow sounding bike, but it doesn't have to so loud that it sets off car alarms.

All i know is this....When I had my stock pipe I was run off the road several times by people paying no attention. Not just "close call" but actually off of the road. I had several run in with deer that couldve been bad as well. I put a Harley Screamin Eagle slashcut on and its loud. Loud enough that I know Im irritating my neighbors in the middle of night, so I try to be curteous and once Im in for the night, Im in for the night. I orginally switched just because it sounded awesome but as an even better bonus to sounding awesome since I switched I have not been run off the road or had any close calls with cagers at all, and I can watch the deer scatter a hundred yards before im anywhere near them. If Im too loud for you to continue you phone conversation while driving, by all means, back off, pass me, switch lanes, whatever you want so long as you are very aware that Im there and even better if your intent on getting away from me. I dont want to be near you when you arent concentrating on the road anyhow.

If you really want to be seen out there, check out these two sites:

http://www.hyperlites.com/
http://www.comagination.com/modulator.htm

I run these on my bike, and they will do far more for you than a lot of unwelcome noise!

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Re: Straight Pipe a Stock Savage
Reply #32 - 08/21/10 at 19:40:15

I dunno about those modulators.. they definitely are more noticeable than a loud pipe because they "shoot forward" unlike pipes. But I have heard that drivers will mistake a motorbike w/modulator for an emergency vehicle, and actually begin to pull over, thinking you're a police escort or something. That's funny, but seems a lot more disruptive than a loud pipe.

Stock harley mufflers still seem like the best option to me.

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Reply #33 - 08/21/10 at 20:17:49

[quote author=787F6E6E730A0 link=1282161486/30#31 date=1282443772]BurnPgh wrote on 08/20/10 at 15:12:52:

If you really want to be seen out there, check out these two sites:

http://www.hyperlites.com/</a>
http://www.comagination.com/modulator.htm

I run these on my bike, and they will do far more for you than a lot of unwelcome noise!

I've seen those modulators, I wouldn't use them.
Why? cause after you look at them for awhile, it gets painful and you stop looking at it. then they'll lose track of your quiet pipe and run you over.

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kevinphan Full Member Offline Posts: 220 Dracut, Massachusetts Gender:	Re: Straight Pipe a Stock Savage Reply #34 - 08/21/10 at 20:51:57 BuckRYCA wrote on 08/21/10 at 16:37:26: Take your straight pipe into NYC these days and you will get a big ticket. Rode in NYC last month all around the city passing cops everywhere, didn't get no stinking ticket. For me, the law won't have an effect on how I modify my bike.
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Re: Straight Pipe a Stock Savage
Reply #35 - 08/21/10 at 21:10:28

kevinphan wrote on 08/21/10 at 20:51:57:

BuckRYCA wrote on 08/21/10 at 16:37:26:

Take your straight pipe into NYC these days and you will get a big ticket.

Rode in NYC last month all around the city passing cops everywhere, didn't get no stinking ticket.

For me, the law won't have an effect on how I modify my bike.

they must've been shocked 'naw can't be, that ain'ta harley'

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Reply #36 - 08/21/10 at 22:30:47

verslagen1 wrote on 08/21/10 at 21:10:28:

kevinphan wrote on 08/21/10 at 20:51:57:

BuckRYCA wrote on 08/21/10 at 16:37:26:

Take your straight pipe into NYC these days and you will get a big ticket.

Rode in NYC last month all around the city passing cops everywhere, didn't get no stinking ticket.

For me, the law won't have an effect on how I modify my bike.

they must've been shocked 'naw can't be, that ain'ta harley'

I have a question before I start rambling on: Where can I get Jim Diamond's straight pipe?

I've been in NYC plenty of times. I live 10 min away. The cops there are used to the loud motorcycles because EVERYONE has them. Unless you're riding past 10pm, unnecessarily cruising at 6500 rpm in your straight piped Savage, cops won't give you a ticket. I feel very unnoticed with my stock savage. I have not come across a quieter motorcycle exhaust here in NJ. Not even close.

The headlight modulator might as well be thrown in the trash. I say this because of my LOCATION. Every other person in NJ has way brighter 55watt HIDs in their honda civics with no muffler. Way brighter than any modulator. Bright clothing does the same thing. If I lived in the middle of bumblefawk CT, I would probably use them because my straight pipe won't be NECESSARY to be noticed. I live in a place where most people drive straight piped V8 mustangs, huge F350s that have never seen a payload of more than 300 ponds and LOUD harley riders who think they're the sheet. I need to battle all this with sound that will be heard AND bright lights that will be seen.

I too have been caged in by cagers to the point where my air horn just doesn't cut it. I used it too many times in too many circumstances.

Again, if I lived in rural Montana, where it's normally really quiet, I would LOVE a stock sounding, quiet Savage. I'd have my air horn as a precaution, and my 55watt HID light to see and be seen. That would be enough. That isn't enough in central NJ.

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Reply #37 - 08/22/10 at 03:24:24

unless you are just really set on a straight pipe because of the way it looks I have some mufflers that look great, are loud but have the minimal backpressure needed...and I do mean minimal.
They are Hard Krome mufflers.

This is the type muffler they are

This is the baffling they have and it is removable, though they are very loud as is ... no need to remove the baffle.

Don't worry about the extra long necks on the mufflers, it is just heat shielding for the most part and can be cut back so they can be mounted on a Savage. I can mod it to fit a Savage, mount it and get a photo if you want to see what it looks like.

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dr1445 Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 97	Re: Straight Pipe a Stock Savage Reply #38 - 08/22/10 at 06:26:44 why stop at a straight pipe? get an emgo shorty megaphone with removable/packable baffle. you want loud just remove the baffle.
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Reply #39 - 08/22/10 at 13:00:24

dr1445 wrote on 08/22/10 at 06:26:44:

why stop at a straight pipe? get an emgo shorty megaphone with removable/packable baffle. you want loud just remove the baffle.

there ya go was going to suggest a trumpet megaphone type design would increase volume beyond a regular straight pipe.. I've got a jardine exhaust now.. it is plenty loud for me, and one of the louder exhausts for the savage, it does have baffles, and I just keep my rpms low in residential areas. it's either have a loud exhaust or go around honking my horn at anyone I think isn't paying full attention to the road and me.. which would be more annoying/image hurting??(i'd be honking my horn every 10 seconds loudly and repeatedly probably in city driving)(LA style driving) now I just put in my clutch and rev my engine loudly when going through intersections or by people I think aren't paying attention.

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Savage_Amusement Serious Thumper Offline On this steel horse I ride. Posts: 1004 Omaha, NE Gender:	Re: Straight Pipe a Stock Savage Reply #40 - 08/22/10 at 14:38:12 Hey Lancer I would like to see one of those on if you ever have the spare time.
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LANCER Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Savage Beast Performance Parts Posts: 10663 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: Straight Pipe a Stock Savage Reply #41 - 08/22/10 at 16:14:44 Savage_Amusement wrote on 08/22/10 at 14:38:12: Hey Lancer I would like to see one of those on if you ever have the spare time. here's a photo taken a few years back with the Hard Krome
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Reply #42 - 08/22/10 at 19:53:35

Lancer, those pipes look absolutely amazing. I would absolutely love to have one that fits our savage. I'm not set on straight pipes at all. I just want the bike to be loud.

I also don't want to go overboard and make my savage run like crap. There's no point in getting noticed and having a poorly running bike.

IDEALLY I want a K&N tapered air filter, rejet, and a hard krome muffler, all tuned to make the Savage run well at all rpm and sound LOUD.

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Reply #43 - 08/23/10 at 10:29:44

Charon wrote on 08/21/10 at 17:03:13:

If I were the Feds, I would not allow loud pipes into any of the National parks, or for that matter any other Federal property. The test would be simple - if it sounds loud to the person at the gate, that person looks for the EPA label. If the EPA label isn't there, the motorcycle is not admitted. I know that won't work against the people who drill out stock pipes, but it is a start.

Wow - you can't be serious can you? Why stop there - let's have the feds outlaw ALL modifications or better yet, let's have them outlaw motorcycles entirely so that only you and your Vespa will be allowed on the roads.

Since when did other bikers start drinking the kool-aid and start believing that our rights aren't as important as everyone else's?

I'm willing to bet Charon that you're one of those people that thinks everyone else is too stupid to think and act for themselves and that the government should do everyone's thinking for them.

Have fun being a sheep and screwing the rest of the herd...I hope you're the first one the shepard visits when he starts to get a little lonely.

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Straight Pipe a Stock Savage Reply #44 - 08/23/10 at 11:17:28 +1 you've got Charon figured out too.
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