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Re: Overheating
Reply #45 - 08/20/10 at 19:29:35

breather tube for the crankcase.

but hey, you might be on to something, your vent for the tank may be clogged. you can either crack the gas cap next time or take it apart and clean it.

non california caps have an in vent and an out vent.
california caps only have an in vent. the out is plumbed to a carbon canister under the swingarm. then up to the carb.

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kk lewi Full Member Offline Suki Love Rocks! Posts: 134 Eastern NC	Re: Overheating Reply #46 - 08/20/10 at 21:10:25 bah, not it then. I've heard it hissing out the cap, and just the other day when I came to a quick halt and gave it a good slosh.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Overheating Reply #47 - 08/20/10 at 21:11:18 that's out, not in
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kk lewi Full Member Offline Suki Love Rocks! Posts: 134 Eastern NC	Re: Overheating Reply #48 - 08/20/10 at 21:40:28 oh, well it was an indication none the less.
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Re: Overheating
Reply #49 - 08/21/10 at 02:06:32

Next step is to put in the Raptor petcock and see if problems simply go away.

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Fuel level in fuel filter is sometimes deceiving when you got a bad stock petcock -- when you run it empty due to the petcock malfunctioning it takes a while to fill up first 1) the filter 2) the lines 3) the bowl ---- but note the fuel filter may retain a large bubble of air as the fuel trickles through it to get to lines and bowl.

The delay filling everything up is confusing as heck. The retained air bubble is confusing. The fact the bad petcock is still "dribbling" fuel to you at a reduced rate which may or may not be keeping up with engine use is confusing.

The whole durn thing can be confusing ....

Put in the Raptor and simplify your life.

Bam -- turn it on and fuel is there. Everything stays full. Bike runs good. Jetting issues go away. Hot running engine issues go away.

Your bike is back ....

Life is simple again.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Overheating Reply #50 - 08/21/10 at 07:12:31 simple till you forget to turn it off...
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ralfyguy Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 932	Re: Overheating Reply #51 - 08/21/10 at 14:41:55 verslagen1 wrote on 08/21/10 at 07:12:31: simple till you forget to turn it off... Yeah and whoever says they never forgot, is lying!
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BurnPgh Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1732	Re: Overheating Reply #52 - 08/22/10 at 15:25:21 I've never forgotten to turn it off...I have, however, forgotten to turn it back on, forgotten to attach the hose to the petcock after doing work and ended up spilling gas everywhere, and Ive forgotten to turn it from reserve to on after filling up.
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kk lewi Full Member Offline Suki Love Rocks! Posts: 134 Eastern NC	Re: Overheating Reply #53 - 08/25/10 at 17:50:56 update: good and bad news! Good: Super Sexy Raptor 660 installed. Bad: Ebay foiled! darn thing leaks like a sieve while in reserve. I couldn't take it for a decent ride with the installed leaky raptor. We'll see with another Raptor.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Overheating Reply #54 - 08/25/10 at 17:59:48 probably made like out petcock. so it needs a new o-ring. take the face plate off and see what you can do.
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kk lewi Full Member Offline Suki Love Rocks! Posts: 134 Eastern NC	Re: Overheating Reply #55 - 08/25/10 at 18:26:00 I was thinking of that too bro. It has to be what it is. Little gasket or, o-ring...
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Re: Overheating
Reply #56 - 08/25/10 at 18:55:09

kk lewi wrote on 08/25/10 at 18:26:00:

I was thinking of that too bro. It has to be what it is. Little gasket or, o-ring...

Hope you got a deal on that used Raptor petcock they can be had new for cheap. Check out RonAyers.com. Buying a used 4 wheeler petcock is asking for issues they are normally run in dirt and mud and not cleaned afterwards all it takes is a couple pieces of sand in the valve to bugger up that O-ring. Hope its just the o-ring.

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kk lewi Full Member Offline Suki Love Rocks! Posts: 134 Eastern NC	Re: Overheating Reply #57 - 08/26/10 at 17:22:41 got it for $15 shipped. So yeah, prob should have bought new. I took it apart, greased up the o-ring and gasket, scraped out some deposits and it seems to have worked. Hopefully tomorrow I test it out and see if what I was thinking was overheating has actually been petcock. Fingers crossed!
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Reply #58 - 08/27/10 at 21:08:02

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 08/21/10 at 02:06:32:

Next step is to put in the Raptor petcock and see if problems simply go away.

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Put in the Raptor and simplify your life.

Bam -- turn it on and fuel is there. Everything stays full. Bike runs good. Jetting issues go away. Hot running engine issues go away.

Your bike is back ....

Life is simple again.

She's back! Took her for a nice long ride today and no problems.

verslagen1 wrote on 08/21/10 at 07:12:31:

simple till you forget to turn it off...

What are the potential problems that can occur if the fuel is not turned off?
I need to take the carb apart to really know what's going on there but once the float bowl is full the float looks like it closes a valve. Valve closed everything stops there? (all just from manual pics)

kk lewi wrote on 08/20/10 at 18:27:05:

explain to me how a full fuel filter could be petcock related? Logically that doesn't make sense to me (tho that appears just to be the case)

It's always the simple things that confuse me.. Today I forgot to turn the raptor on and took off down the road. Fuel filter was full. Suki started exhibiting the same problems. I remembered and quickly switched the fuel on, and I got a Eureka! If no fuel is flowing in, it creates a vacuum, and no fuel can flow out. I can be such an idiot.

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I think Suki is all better now! Thx so much for the help to you all Cheesy

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Re: Overheating
Reply #59 - 08/27/10 at 21:36:14

If you leave it on... and the float valve fails... your carb will flood.

If you're lucky, it goes into the airbox.

If you're not... it goes into the intake... then into the cylinder... then into the crankcase, diluting your oil, which if you don't notice, is as good as running with no oil.

my advice, always park heading uphill. good for the kickstand too.

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