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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Rotella T-6 5w-40 Synthetic oil useage on Drag Reply #45 - 08/12/10 at 18:49:33 I'll stick with the Group 5 overkill oil,doesn't cost much more to go 1st class.
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Re: Rotella T-6 5w-40 Synthetic oil useage on Drag
Reply #46 - 08/12/10 at 19:14:37

I just spent a few minutes on Klotz's web site, looking at their MX-4 10W-40 motorcycle oil. While they describe their oil as synthetic, I could find no place where they describe it as "Group 5." They did have a nice link explaining the different oil groups, however.

I found an interesting item in the Tech Sheet for MX-4. They had a line marked "Film Strength". On a scale of 1=failure and 10=No Wear, the MX-4 was rated 9. I suppose that means it is just short of "No Failure." MX-4 is also supposed to have that "Race Smell" and as someone said, it is RED. It also has some sort of "Biodegradeability" which is said to be 60%. That would make suspicious little me think that perhaps it is 40% something like Group 3 and 60% Group 5, but that is just a guess.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28657 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Rotella T-6 5w-40 Synthetic oil useage on Drag Reply #47 - 08/12/10 at 19:22:54 Klotz is not made by mere mortals like us,... and so it is not bound by the restrictions of our earthly physics or chemistry... We Greeks are but children.......
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Re: Rotella T-6 5w-40 Synthetic oil useage on Drag
Reply #48 - 08/13/10 at 01:10:13

Charon wrote on 08/12/10 at 19:14:37:

I just spent a few minutes on Klotz's web site, looking at their MX-4 10W-40 motorcycle oil. While they describe their oil as synthetic, I could find no place where they describe it as "Group 5." They did have a nice link explaining the different oil groups, however.

I found an interesting item in the Tech Sheet for MX-4. They had a line marked "Film Strength". On a scale of 1=failure and 10=No Wear, the MX-4 was rated 9. I suppose that means it is just short of "No Failure." MX-Charlie4 is also supposed to have that "Race Smell" and as someone said, it is RED. It also has some sort of "Biodegradeability" which is said to be 60%. That would make suspicious little me think that perhaps it is 40% something like Group 3 and 60% Group 5, but that is just a guess.

Charlie check out their wear rating on MX 15w-50w thats what I use.

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Rotella T-6 5w-40 Synthetic oil useage on Drag Reply #49 - 08/13/10 at 07:02:22 Its nice Charlie can re class oil the way he wants them instead of going by what they really are.I think I will re class the S40 and say its a 550.
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Charon Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1811 Harvard, NE Gender:	Re: Rotella T-6 5w-40 Synthetic oil useage on Drag Reply #50 - 08/13/10 at 07:19:51 I repeat, Bill, my user name is Charon. I have no idea where you dreamed up "Charlie." I also have no idea what you might mean by your inane last post.
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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12671 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: Rotella T-6 5w-40 Synthetic oil useage on Drag Reply #51 - 08/13/10 at 07:26:51 oooooh, de flamethrowers, they come out to play ..... whooosh !!! Tristle, tristle, trastle, trome ... time for this one to go home !!!
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Rotella T-6 5w-40 Synthetic oil useage on Drag Reply #52 - 08/13/10 at 07:32:32 Charon wrote on 08/13/10 at 07:19:51: I repeat, Bill, my user name is Charon. I have no idea where you dreamed up "Charlie." I also have no idea what you might mean by your inane last post. Charon Klotz MX is a Group V oil,Its not what you would like it to be.
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Charon Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1811 Harvard, NE Gender:	Re: Rotella T-6 5w-40 Synthetic oil useage on Drag Reply #53 - 08/13/10 at 07:47:47 Bill, prove your statement by posting the link from Klotz's website that says it is Group V. Then remember that Group V is an "everything else" group which can include vegetable oils such as castor oil.
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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12671 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: Rotella T-6 5w-40 Synthetic oil useage on Drag Reply #54 - 08/13/10 at 07:54:12 Oh No, Mr Bill !!! Klotz is jest red food coloring and castor oil ??? ..... and where is the magic in that, boys and girls? I am sooooooo disappointed ..... signed ..... Gumby
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Rotella T-6 5w-40 Synthetic oil useage on Drag Reply #55 - 08/13/10 at 08:32:44 Red-line racing oil is a group V oil too.
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Rotella T-6 5w-40 Synthetic oil useage on Drag Reply #56 - 08/13/10 at 08:44:40 Ok I will tell you guys the truth Klotz is made from VIRGIN olive oil with the blood of a Englishman put in for color.
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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12671 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: Rotella T-6 5w-40 Synthetic oil useage on Drag Reply #57 - 08/13/10 at 11:28:57 Now don't you go be a pulling Mick into this here proper polite "limited engagement" flamethrower & machine gun oil ~~donnybrook~~ discussion -- we all agreed last time that we would all forgo the use of tactical nukes and similar weapons of mass destruction in any future oil wars.
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Re: Rotella T-6 5w-40 Synthetic oil useage on Drag
Reply #58 - 08/13/10 at 12:09:51

Oil thread wars sure are fun, but this one is even more so -- given that we're talking about a low state-of-tune, low horsepower, low rpm engine. Maybe 25 hp out of 39 cubic inches? My wife's Hyundai is more high strung than that and it gets bulk dino oil renewed every 5K miles (that exceeds the owner's manual recommendation). I full well expect it to go 200K miles without an oil-related problem. Who can tell us about a Savage/S40 engine breakdown that was only the fault of the oil?

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Re: Rotella T-6 5w-40 Synthetic oil useage on Drag
Reply #59 - 08/13/10 at 19:19:59

Nobody -- but they sure can tell you some examples of dead engines due to not having any oil at all in the crankcase.

We do have some dead heads historically due to low oil pressure, but that wasn't the oil's fault -- the owner/operator ran the idle rpm below 1,000 RPM and starved the head bearings due to lack of oil pressure.

Message there is USE OIL, keep it visible in the window at all times. Keep your idle RPM up over 1,000 rpm to have oil pressure up to the head at all times.

Now if you really want to use a good oil, I'd recommend ......

Grin

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